Im becoming unsettled. Maybe a few memes total on first two pages. How could things go so bad? Where are the yester beans gone?
Bullying someone who’s country is at war with a dictator is bad, yes.
How about claiming Gaza before the corpse is cold?
What a fucking country.
This one stings just because how much I wanted kamala so we didn’t have to learn what trump had in store.
She would have been so good
She would’ve been thoroughly mediocre, but that still would’ve been infinitely preferable to what we got.
Nah, her policy positions were good. She was on the right side of every issue with a reasonable plan to target it. There is no other president in recent history who is as progressive.
I find it werid that people will rate dems as if there is was a magical dem who would have been able to do everything.
Nah, her policy positions were good. She was on the right side of every issue with a reasonable plan to target it.
She was literally in favour of continuing the genocide in Gaza, the fuck is wrong with you seppos that you think that’s the right side of an issue?
She was in favour of removing the terrorist group from power and a two state solution. Why the fuck would an American president not support Isreal? The single criticism you lot have is over an issue that every American president has the same stance on.
We’re all just tired of being taken advantage of. Dems are weak with no spine/teeth, Republicans are selfish egotistical maniacs. Everyone out for themselves and will step on anyone they can to get what they want.
We just need people like Bernie who just wants to help pretty much everyone with healthcare, rights, etc. but the money from corruption is too good.
You’re STILL saying this shit? My God, we’re on the brink of WW3 because of people saying this shit.
Harris was 100% on the wrong side of the Gaza genocide and also not even a little bit economically progressive. That second part – the abject refusal to do meaningful things to help the working class – is how she lost to Trump. People were seduced by Trump’s dishonest and wrong, but easy, “scapegoat the minorities” answers to the question of how to restore prosperity.
Trueee she should have thrown her support behind hamas. Try and compete with trump for the anti Semitic vote.
Her platform of reducing the cost of even more prescription drugs, paid leave, more worker protections, more union protections, banning corporate price gouging, providing first home assistance and more would have absolutely wrecked the working class.
These are reasonable policies thay would get through. Compared to a guy who has already stripped all of those using illegal power.
kamala was more biden. the same group of people that was around behind created the conditions for a kamala run to even be possible.
they had to pull some weird “democracy games” to even get her on the ballot. pretend like biden was gonna run so he automatically wins the primary and only then announce he’s gonna leave. really shows how far this democracy has fallen
as for kamala, biden’s immigration proposals were “compassionate approach” and “immigration reform”
if you went to her website and looked under immigration there was only “strong border” and “border security”
to be honest, i only wanted kamala to win because she was a woman and that woulda been cool. but the descent into fascism would not have been meaningfully slowed down, i think
she still would have supported genocide in gaza, and her term would have pushed people further towards fascism. there was really no real choice in that election, sadly. the usa was already too firmly controlled by the ruling class.
Accelerationism it is. It’s too terminal to save, conservatives need to feel the pain.
don’t get me wrong, i would have voted harris. (im not american) but she wouldn’t have been good. she wouldn’t have even been ok. but she was better than trump.
My God… I can’t believe people are still saying this.
Versus Trump who is actively and openly trying to genocide and relocate Palestinians? Trump who praised Xi for his Uyghur concentration camps? Trump who is turning Guantanamo into the same thing?
i hate trump probably as much or more than you do. please re-read my comment as i actually wrote it, because i meant what i wrote. i did not mean what you imagined i might be secretly thinking or whatever. please don’t jump to conclusions :(
I blocked all of the news and political communities on my main account.
I keep an alt to keep track of local and national news of where I live. Improved my mental health substantially.
Edit: I live in Europe
I wish I could, but personally not knowing would be a greater mental load then having to process this run away train of fascism.
If you can’t, it can be enough to say that’s enough for today and control how much you take in I found a YouTube channel belle of the fifth column is just enough to keep informed but it’s short and she put context to the news and just keeps it to the facts no click bait.
I’ll not denigrate your choices. I will just say that I’m reading and listening to a lot less, but that’s because I’m reading/listening/watching across the spectrum. Shutting out others’ voices seems to be what got us here.
I haven’t worked up the wherewithal to brave Breitbart, OANN etc yet. One, my mental health is so valuable to me, two, I want to continue to consume thoughtful pieces; but I think it’s critical to keep an eye on these outlets so we can address legitimate grievances and also be a calm, steady, not-shaming tone to offer a more grounded perspective. It will take time, patience, respect to bring USA back to some semblance of sanity and unity. I think we are on the event horizon of do-or-die together, in that regard ) and I mean globally).
I don’t think i understand your comment what does belle have to do with OANN or Breitbart I wouldn’t touch those with a 10 foot pole.
I’m not sure how to be more plain. People are radicalized because legitimate concerns aren’t heard, let alone addressed. Entertaining ideas doesn’t mean automatically accepting all of them. How are we to address legitimate grievances if we refuse to listen for them?
I understand where you’re coming from, but the legitimate grievances of conservatives are not covered by the far right media. They’re alchemically transmogrified into immigrant hate, queer hate, poor hate.
Their legitimate grievances are largely the same as everyone. Wages haven’t kept up with the cost of living is the most basic. But instead of looking at the top of the hierarchy for answers, these media sources redirect that grievance at the bottom of the hierarchy. And conservatives are obsessed with hierarchy.
It is good to study enemy propaganda, but it’s hard to stomach. I wish more people could understand in the way you have.
And when we’ve tempered ourselves (I’m so not there yet!), we can calmly, rationally refute with truth in non-inflammatory language. We can try to use simpler terms and explain those not understood. I understand it’s not going to be easy, that’s why I’m working on temperance in small bites, first. Our media has inflamed and made reactionary all of us, to varying extents, because that supports the monied interests. It supports everyone’s interests to dial it back, take deep breaths and respond rather than react. Don’t think the Neo Duopoly is going to do that; they will counter it with even more inflammatory rhetoric.
What more are you really going to do? You already know you’re going to vote Democrat in 2028.
Blaze lives inside the sopuli.xyz server farm confirmed.
News should always take a higher seat than memes. I don’t know why this is considered abnormal. For ages, the front page of ALL newspapers paper have been news. Not the comics section.
This place ain’t the newspapers
It’s not a comedy forum either.
It’s because political discussion (and in general most commentary) on Reddit / Meta / Xitter has become overtly censored, and there’s a real concern that it’s tracked - a bad thing in an authoritarian regime barreling towards facism. Those who wish to have real political discourse having been moving away, and lemmy is receiving a lot of that traffic.
As an example, referring to a list of CEO’s on Reddit as “Luigi’s List” will get you a ban warning for inciting violence.
This increase in sensitivity to the potential implications of real political speech, coupled with increasingly stringent rules on the parts of the mods and accelerated by the auto-mod bots and AI chat bots, has led to a very restrictive discussion environment on the big social media networks. Even Bluesky, which is left-leaning and possesses the architecture for multiple servers to avoid centralization, is following this pattern.
Lemmy / Mastodon are attractive because they’re not as restrictive, when you’re posting you’re interacting with real people, and because the mods and admins are humans dealing with a manageable population. And if someone censors you on the server you’re on, you just move to another. More and more folks are realizing this as the enshitification of the big 3 continues.
Fear not, the memes will live on, but I think that in a very real way, Lemmy’s (and the Fediverse’s) time is upon us, and this is the result. People are using it for real shit because the real shit is upon us, and we need a place where we can freely discuss how to get clear of the incoming shitstorm.
I haven’t seen any egg pics. Something is wrong, I can feel it.
Trump is using a technique called ‘The Gish Gallop.’
Obama wanted to pass the ACA and the GOP managed to block it for almost two years because Obama kept talking about that one thing.
Trump is breaking rules left and right; plus screaming about crazy ideas like buying Greenland.
There is so much stuff going on that normal minds just want to shut down to get some peace and quiet.
Obama increased mass surveillance and US undercover operations significantly. Bush ultimately started it but Obama has a opportunity to stand on the side of freedom but didn’t take it. Like all recent presidents he was focused on extending the power of the executive branch. The real answer is checks and balances.
LOL!
Obama couldn’t get Gitmo closed. How many of those programs did he originate, and how many were passed by the Congress and he didn’t veto them?
He was hamstrung by the GOP and conservative Dems.
The answer is a veto proof progressive Dem majority, not more ‘checks and balances.’
The answer is a veto proof progressive Dem majority, not more ‘checks and balances.’
After what trump is doing they still won’t be able to get there because they are corporate bootlickers who don’t resonate with working people anymore… at all.
Do you have an actual plan?
Because screaming ‘BotH sidES aRe The SAme’ has worked so well to prevent Trump from getting elected twice.
Screaming “vote for my preference or else” every election is what got trump elected twice.
The First Past The Post (FPTP) voting system has squashed competition in our elections, resulting in both major political parties being filled with weak individuals. Our people are unrepresented by FPTP voting, thus the large non voter block. Things don’t have to be this way.
States have control over their voting methods, meaning we don’t need to wait a federal miracle. We can change how we vote and make room for third parties without risking a spoiler effect.
Alaska has already taken this step. In fact, Alaska has recently held a referendum on whether to go switch from Ranked Choice Voting back to FPTP, and the referendum was rejected. Republicans were frustrated when Sarah Palin lost to a more moderate conservative under Ranked Choice Voting, but the people of Alaska made their choice—they don’t want FPTP any more. Meanwhile, states controlled by Republicans are passing laws to safeguard FPTP.
So why are Democratic states continuing to use the voting system that Republicans favor? And why are Democrats turning down the potential for more votes from increased voter participation?
Videos on Electoral Reform
First Past The Post voting (What most states use now)
Videos on alternative electoral systems we can try out.
So, you’re planning to get your new system in place on a national level in 24 months, with Trump in charge?
Maybe you should focus on what’s happening at this moment and not on what you might be able to accomplish decades down the road.
If you want to do something do something. Others have shown how easy actually is if you are really willing to.
If not, saturating everyone head with bad news is not healthy for anyone.
Real political discourse is too heavily censored in corporate spaces
Beans? Look here youngin
What happened?
People pay attention to memes more than news…
I blocked all the stupid meme communities as soon as I started using Lemmy, glad to see actual discussion is replacing brain rot tho.
It’s a good thing.
God forbid we have any space without the constant never ending same arguments right?
You can.
You can subscribe to every stupid brain rot meme sub you want, and when you’re ready to turn your brain off just switch to only viewing subscribed communities.
No one is saying not to do that, burnout is real and what fascists hope for.
So by all means, take your breaks. Check out and don’t think about it for a day or two. But come back and care about the important shit again.
But when viewing /all and seeing the top post be actual discussions on serious topics it’s a good thing.
It means right now more people are choosing that over the brain rot. Hopefully it becomes the norm, but we still need to rotate off for a break, it’s not gonna be a short fight against fascism. No one is going to make it to the end without some breaks.
I see your point but think it’s also valid to use Lemmy or other social media to engage only with memes or whatever else people enjoy. Absolutely, everybody should stay informed and passionate about the rapidly crumbling world, but there’s no rule that they specifically must do that via Lemmy. If someone chooses to use their social media as a haven from the real-world issues they encounter everywhere else, then unless Lemmy is their entire life, I don’t see that as a problem.
Feels like it’s been that way since the election to be honest
Lemmy has always been a political outlet, but post election has been out of hands.
I mean, it makes sense. We’re witnessing the US becoming a fascist dictatorship in realtime. It’s a huge upset to the way the world has been for everyone living’s lifetimes.
Yeah, it’s like not being able to look away from a train wreck, but it’s a humongous fiery train wreck that has been advertised and teased in every form of online media for the past two years.
Fascist America warnings be like:
OP is onto something.
maybe people are getting sad out there. maybe news is coming at us fast… because change (unprecedented bad bad change) is happening faster than ever before?
it’s a sign of the times. people blaming news junkies or whining about blocking comms don’t get it. we’re no longer living in a time when we can afford to ignore what’s happening around us.
ps, I’m not arguing against memes. in fact go check [email protected] it’s been turned into a satire comm under new mods and it’s wonderful!
Can’t ignore it.
Can’t change it.
Only heartburn.
I think we can change it. We just have to say, “Mountain, be thou removed” and get busy with our shovels to help remove it. It won’t be easy, but it is doable.
Don’t ever think you can’t change it.
Audrey Hepburn was a teenager when the Nazis invaded.
She could only dance, but that’s what she did.
There’s always a way to fight.