• LandedGentry@lemmy.zip
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    I mean at the end of the day if you don’t want people to come at you with their shit takes you shouldn’t put your stuff out for the public to see. That is also a choice.

    I completely agree with the streamer that these people are ridiculous and being racist. Make no mistake. But to your point: when you choose to use a megaphone people are allowed to yell back or otherwise react to what you use it for. If you don’t want that to happen, don’t use the megaphone. I think about this a lot when I see people get mad on comment threads that somebody “butted in” on a conversation.

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      The streamer wasn’t “using a megaphone” - these losers weren’t yelling back at a guy on the street , they were *going out of their way" looking for people playing the game so they could join and bitch about the existence of black people.

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        The act of streaming means you’re using a megaphone. You’re deliberately and intentionally inviting the public.

        That does not at all absolve these bigoted chucklefucks. They did not deserve the harassment.

        Both of these can be true.

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          More like the show he was playing had free entry and these guys came to the bar specifically to complain that they don’t like his music.

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          The act of streaming means you’re using a megaphone. You’re deliberately and intentionally inviting the public.

          “Using a megaphone” implies he was trying to push an agenda. Being a public figure/entertainer is not well described by the phrase “using a megaphone.”

          He’s deliberately and intentionally inviting the public, yes… to be fucking entertained while he streams a video game. He’s not trying to teach them anything, or convince them of anything, or push an agenda.

          He had people come into his stream and start talking racist shit and he shut it down. In no way does he have to put up with it just because he is a public figure.

          I mean at the end of the day if you don’t want people to come at you with their shit takes you shouldn’t put your stuff out for the public to see. That is also a choice.

          Do you even fucking hear yourself? Saying that being a public figure means you’re deliberately asking for harassment and abuse is fucking insane! What the fuck is wrong with you or anyone else who thinks it’s okay to hurl abuse at someone just because they’re a fucking public figure. And don’t fucking tell me you’re not saying it’s okay, but public figures should “expect it”. No. Full stop. Fuck that. By saying they should expect it you’re fucking normalizing it and saying it’s okay. That’s a choice you’re making, and it’s frankly disgusting.

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            I’m not going to have a conversation with you if you’re going to so thoroughly and completely misrepresent what I said. For fuck’s sake did you even read my last comment?

            That does not at all absolve these bigoted chucklefucks. They did not deserve the harassment.

            Do you read comments before you respond? I want you to explain how you came the conclusion that I said this harassment was ok when I unequivocally and clearly said it wasn’t.

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              I want you to explain how you came the conclusion that I said this harassment was ok when I unequivocally and clearly said it wasn’t.

              I already told you. You said the act of being a public figure means you are inviting harassment. If you don’t understand how this normalizes harassment, I don’t think there’s much else to say.

              Do you read comments before you respond?

              Allow me to quote myself where I a) showed that I read your comment, and b) anticipated your response:

              And don’t fucking tell me you’re not saying it’s okay, but public figures should “expect it”. No. Full stop. Fuck that. By saying they should expect it you’re fucking normalizing it and saying it’s okay.

              You can’t say public figures should expect harassment and are inviting it and then say people who harass them are not absolved. You are absolving them by saying it’s expected and invited.

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                    No you didn’t. Show me where I said you claim I did. I explicitly said the streamer did not deserve this and these bigots are wrong. I don’t know how much clearer I could be.

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          If you’re doing a little solo guitar performance in some back alley, does that mean the racist masses are entitled to come thundering down that back alley and harass you?

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      So the people being racist, it’s not them, it’s the guy playing a game that has races people don’t like.