(I’m trying to adjust my shopping habits for quality, long-lasting goods from reputable brands. This isn’t some hailcorporate thing)
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If there’s one thing the last couple of decades have taught me, is there is no such thing as a brand you can trust forever: even the privately owned family brands sometimes get bought out by some conglomerate or made public, followed by enshittification as the new management tries to squeeze all the value they can of the brand.
You’re better off not going by brand and researching every large ticket item purchase you want to make: if you’re going to spend $1000, it’s probably worth a couple of hours of your time looking into it beforehand unless your hourly rate is pretty high.
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There are tons of great quality brands. Until capitalism kills them and they become the same as the rest.
This is the truth.
Brother printers. I have 78k pages printed on my 15 year old color laser printer from them, and it’s still going strong. They still sell OEM toner and even replacement parts for it, although the only part that ever needed to be replaced so far was the drum.
A brother laser printer was the best decision of my college career. I only wish I’d have bought it sooner
This might sound weird, but Apple. I was NEVER disappointed by any of the products I bought. Sure, they are fucking expensive. Sure, they sometimes release really dumb products that most people probably shouldn’t buy (e.g. the 2015 MacBook). But if you make all the right considerations before your purchase, I’m pretty sure you will have a product that won’t disappoint you. At least that’s been my experience so far. That doesn’t mean that I’m perfectly happy with everything, for example I’m trying to switch away from an iPhone (I will definitely keep using macOS laptops/desktops though) for privacy reasons. I wasn’t really disappointed here, when I bought this phone, I knew what I was getting myself into, but Google isn’t much better.
Proton for secure email/calendar/whatever they offer now. I’ve been a subscriber to their paid plan for years, really happy so far.
IVPN and Mullvad for a trustworthy, private VPN provider
Hottest take on this site: Apple.
I use my 2011 MacBook Pro to manage my 80k photos. My phone is six years old. My iPad Pro is five? (Edit: I lied, it’s a 2017 model) Years old.
I don’t use their desktops, I use Linux for my servers and windows for playing games. But my Apple shit for casual use has all lasted me an insane amount of time.
My 13 year old MacBook Pro still gets through 1.75 playthroughs of Beetlejuice on max brightness! Full disclaimer, I originally bought it for games and used Windows 7 always plugged in, and only now it has an SSD and OSX and the battery has 30 cycles. BUT STILL
I’ve been using MacBooks for work as a developer for over 15 years. They are ridiculously reliable. Earlier models would have key paint rub off. Mostly cosmetic stuff. But I’ve literally never had one not work.
I don’t like that you can’t switch out batteries, ram or hard drive anymore.
Also, they’re not cheap so for personal use I don’t buy apple products (especially since I don’t want to switch from an android to an apple ecosysten) but its to the point where if work tried to make me use a Dell windows laptop for my daily driver id go find another job. That’s how much I like the MacBook pro.
If you’re much of a tech person, you must have been living under a rock if you think all apple products are good. Several of their laptops and desktops have been large misses, some have had critical flaws that burn them out after a few years, one of their iPhones had a battery/processor combo flaw that had the batteries not deliver enough voltage after like a year and instead of doing a recall, they put out an update that undercooked the apu so the phone ran shittier but wouldn’t rando restart anymore. Then there was the iPhone that lost reception if “you were holding it wrong”.
Also, there’s a reason they were about to go bankrupt in the mid 90’s. They got saved by Bill Gates and got lucky with the Ipod, that saved their company.
I just give my experience.
What is the phone with the undervolting? I do not know that thing.
Oh yeah, the thing that all devices do so they don’t just shut off randomly. Apple was just punished cuz they weren’t transparent about it. Would you rather your phone slow down as the battery is almost empty, or shut off at 15%?
Lol. That is 100% not true, Fan Boy. My four year old samsung still pulls the same test numbers and frequencies as when it was new. Apple was using flawed batteries with a processor that couldn’t cope and just tried to cover it up.
My almost six year old iPhone XS Max also has a very healthy battery. But if we kept our phones for a long time, when your and my batteries aren’t healthy, both of our phones are absolutely going to throttle when voltage drops. If they don’t, they’ll just shut off at 15%. It’s how batteries work.
Hottest take on this site: Apple.
That’s because there’s such a huge and biased fan base, and they drown out the actual objective opinions.
No it’s because they are so far above and beyond any of their competition Apple ‘s worst is better than any of the trash products trying to compete with it.
Lucky for you, but the truth is, Apple isn’t that great or reliable. Here is a list of all the MacBook recalls, and it’s a list from 2021. Battery issues of possibly catching fire, screens cracking, logic board failures, etc…
Here is another list that is from 2023 of different Apple devices.
Apple Watch Series 6 – Black Screen Issue iPhone 12 and 12 Pro – No Sound Issues iPhone 11 – Touch Issues AirPods Pro – Sound Issues iPad Air 3rd gen – Blank Screen Issue Smart Battery Case – Charging Issues iPhone 6s and 6s Plus – No Power Issues 15-inch MacBook Pro – Battery Overheating/Fire Risk MacBook lineup – Keyboard Issues 13-inch MacBook Pro – Display Backlight Issues Apple Three-Prong AC Wall Plug Adapter – Electrical Shock Risk iPhone X – Touch Issues iPhone 7 – No Service Issues iPhone 6 Plus – Multi-touch and Display Flickering Issues Apple European AC Wall Plug – Electrical Shock Risk Beats Pill XL – Overheating and Fire Risk Apple 5W European USB Power Adapter – Overheating Risk Apple Ultracompact USB Power Adapter – Electrical Shock Risk
Where’s a list of recalls for non Apple devices for comparison?
I’ve had several devices that should have been recalled and weren’t so good on Apple for recalling anything at all.
Did you read the wiki leaks for chained exploits to achieve privilege escalation on various devices? Apple devices had the smallest attack surface by far and had already patched several vectors before they leaked.
With android, you had several paths to choose from to achieve full control of the device for each and every android version, and the likelihood that a device was patched, if a patch existed at all, was extremely low. Patch releases would lag published exploits for years.
Apple has always used the right hardware for the job, while others add as much power as possible to hide the fact their software / hardware marriage is abysmal.
And now there is Apple silicon, which is even better!
- Hardware: Winner Apple
- Software: Winner Apple
- Security: Winner Apple
- User friendliness: Winner Apple
And you had anything beyond saying it to back it up.
Hardware I’ve already proven, you, well… You made something up and hoped for the best.
Software, as we are talking more about macOS at the beginning, it’s a joke that you are claiming macOS has more and various software than Windows. There is a reason even Apple uses Windows and not macOS.
Security, again, you made a quick claim and nothing to back it up. But here is a list of iOS exploits just from 2022-2023.
User friendliness: this reeks of desperation. And has been proven in the past to be wrong, but keep trolling. I’ll keep laughing 🤣
All you have proven is that Apple has had recalls in the past. Recalls happen. I’m not sure what point you are trying to make.
Hardware you have not proven at all. You linked to Apple recalls. Who are you comparing them to? Whose products in this space are more trustworthy to you?
Security… here is a list of CVEs Samsung is patching just for August. I’m glad they have SMRs, but what is the uptake? Android 14 has a measly 13% share. 70.5% of iPhones are running the latest iOS. Security patches that don’t get installed don’t provide security. You can’t trust android developers to not exploit the hell out of the android os. The OS wasn’t designed with security in mind and anybody that reads the API can see that. The entire ecosystem can’t be trusted.
Critical CVE-2024-21461
High CVE-2024-4610, CVE-2024-0153, CVE-2024-21460, CVE-2024-21465, CVE-2024-21469, CVE-2024-21462, CVE-2024-34724, CVE-2024-34725, CVE-2024-34726, CVE-2024-23373, CVE-2024-23372, CVE-2024-23368, CVE-2024-23380, CVE-2024-26923, CVE-2024-31334, CVE-2024-31335, CVE-2024-20077, CVE-2023-20971, CVE-2023-21351, CVE-2024-34731, CVE-2024-34735, CVE-2024-34737, CVE-2024-34738, CVE-2024-34739, CVE-2024-34740, CVE-2024-34741, CVE-2024-34743, CVE-2024-34736, CVE-2024-34742, CVE-2024-34727, CVE-2024-34745, CVE-2024-34746, CVE-2024-36971, CVE-2024-32896
User friendliness… it is well documented that Apple cares more about users than developers and now, as a result, developers target Apple platforms too. Why? Because developers follow the users. It doesn’t matter how enticing Microsoft is for developers, if there aren’t users, developers will leave. Because Microsoft can’t be trusted and constantly screw over their users. Microsoft is only still in use because they have plenty of monopolies. Every time one of their monopolies falls, users flock to their competitor. Microsoft cannot be trusted to execute. Zune, Windows Phone, Kinect. Office has been replaced. Xbox replaced. And windows is being replaced.
Here is an analysis of usability and reliability that sums it all up in terms we all understand. Money. Macs are cheaper than PCs.
This debate is over. ^
Debate is over? You come here, attempt very poor attempt of a flood of BS, and call that a debate? 🤡
Bonus points for linking to the well known and debunked “claim” that macs are cheaper over the long term than Windows. Wow, that sad attempt took me back (and I knew you’d use it). I can see you never looked into that claim. It claims that Windows needed AV, a $100+ a year, but macOS some mhow doesn’t, even though macOS malware was on the rise even then. Combined with how they claimed half the enterprise security suites somehow weren’t needed for macOS showed it wasn’t a serious attempt (a lot like your messages).
Sorry. I didn’t realize OP was asking for a thesis paper when asking what companies I trust.
The debate is over because it was never a debate.
It wasn’t a debate not because I wanted a thesis, it’s because all you wanted was to troll. Your entire comment was “lol, trust me bro. Here’s a well known lie to back me up”. And you were terrible at it. Go back to Reddit.
Kirkland
Surprisingly good quality for just about everything except dishwashing and dishwasher detergent.
I use Kirkland dishwashing detergent; the new formulation is comparable to Dawn, at about half the price. The older, clear formulation was not quite as nice.
I haven’t tried it in several years. Like you said, the old stuff didn’t meet our expectations. Is it comparable to Dawn, or Dawn Platinum? We’ve found that Platinum stuff to be superior to everything else. Also, how about the dishwasher detergent? Have you tried that stuff recently?
I’m using Costco pods and they are the best I’ve used. I don’t pre rinse, I use it on old dishes. My dishes come out nice and clean. My sister cancelled her membership and now I have to find a new dishwasher pod dealer.
Why don’t you just get a membership? We save tons of money shopping there. The gas alone will save more than the membership fee if you drive a car.
The true answer is a bit embarrassing, but it’s because my husband does our grocery shopping and he is bad with money. He will buy too much stuff because it’s a “good deal” which just ends up costing more overall. I love him so much, and he has so many good qualities, but he’s a real sucker for “deals” and that’s all Costco is.
I will never always trust a brand, there are some brands that have good trust, but I’ve seen too many brands screw people over for money.
I will say currently, Darn Tough Socks, Keen Shoes, EVGA, Milwaukee Tools, if you are in the cinema / live production world Teradek, and Yamaha.
Nah you can’t trust Keen anymore as of like 7 years ago. They switched to much cheaper shoe materials on their presidio walking shoe that was super popular, but the price didn’t drop at all. At the same time, they started inserting huge globs of rubber in the heel of their hiking shoes so you are forced to use their brand of insert that has a hole to fit said bump.
I’ll be honest, just recently bought new shoes from them haven’t gotten a chance to wear them in yet, the previous pair was pre-covid. But they look and feel exactly like my old pair did when I bought them, so maybe their work line hasn’t suffered yet.
And this is why I’ll never be loyal to a brand, as long as they’re good I’ll keep buying their product, when it’s not good I’ll stop.
At this point none. Trademark law has been rendered null and void when a holding company can own 3/4 of the brands on the market. Go pick up a power tool off the rack at Lowe’s or Home Depot and tell me where it was made. When Stanley Black & Decker source different tools for the same brand from different anonymous manufacturers…
I’m at the point where I’m going to suggest to you learn how to work wood and metal with hand tools.
Most of the shit is made in China now, including Craftsman, Snap-on, and other traditional American tool manufacturing brands. Wera and Wiha are made in Germany, and worth the extra money if you expect your tools to last a lifetime.
Wera and Wiha are both great but Craftsan and Snap-On still machine and manufacture tools in the US
They haven’t had their primary manufacturing in the USA for like a decade. They’re just recently starting to move their manufacturing back to the USA.
Craftsman, maybe, but I can drive 45 minutes from where I’m sitting right now and see the same Snap-On factory that was there 20 years ago and I sure as hell ain’t in China
Or buy Festool.
My dream shop setup is Festool for corded and Hilti for cordless
YKK zips. On anything I’ve ever owned, they don’t break. And I find that more durable clothing brands will use YKK zips.
I’ll start my own thread with OXO for their kitchen goods. After a decade of dealing with subpar containers and utensils, I’ve slowly started to rebuild my set with OXO stuff and habe yet to be disappointed by anything of theirs.
Seconded with Knipex hand tools. They’re far pricier than the competition you’ll find on the store shelves, but the quality and engineering is better than anything else you can reasonably find (barring boutique toolmakers).
Le Creuset… but there’s a secret… They’re SUPER expensive.
So you find your local outlet store and sign up for their mailing list. You’ll regularly get 30%, 40%, 50% off deals.
2nd trick, they have an outstanding warranty. Bring it in, they swap it out.
I have an outstanding warrant …is that the same?
Not quite, but I encourage you to visit your warrant provider for more details to prevent loss of service.
I’ve used my Knipex 5” cobra pliers more than anything else in the toolbox, except maybe a torx set. Solid tools.
They’re great. As a line cook, I used to EDC a pair of the 4" minis in my pocket for taking off burner nozzles for cleaning. By the end of my year there, everyone else I worked with had bought a pair because they were so much better than dealing with the garbage Hart brand pliers the restaurant supplied.
Deuter backpacks.
In many years of backpacking I never met someone who had trouble or regrets with a deuter bag.
I broke one of the steel rods in mine after years of heavy use and clearly by my own fault and way out of any manufacturer responsibility and they just replaced it for free. I just asked if there is any way to get spare parts and they were like “Here you go, have a good trip.”
Besides that, you have put in serious effort or serious stupidity (in my case) to break them at all. Especially normally easily breakable parts like clasps and zippers, are super sturdy.
