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    Newspapers need to just call RFK jr what he is - a child killer. Forget about this raw milk stuff and lay out the direct harm he has caused including deaths of babies from his vaccine misinformation.

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      They never will. Especially now that we’ve elected an authoritarian dictator who is hellbent on exacting retribution on anyone who may have slighted him.

      And that includes literally just reporting objective reality. They might jail or execute one or two journalists to send a message, but they’ll fall in line.

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      This is a situation where we let Darwinism take it’s course. The people who are stupid enough to listen to this are going to drink it, get sick, and then wonder what happened. Maybe I’m more negative than usual, but fuck em. Let them fuck themselves.

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      Yeah but we’re talking about stupid people. In their brains they’re probably convinced that milk is not heat treated to kill pathogens but because of government population control or something.

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    The fact that will even entertain this and other anti-scientific consensus bullshit in the conversation is the poison in the well.

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    Go ahead. Let your anti science cultists get themselves sick. I don’t fucking care anymore.

    It feels like we’re living in the middle of one of those cultist documentaries, where 29 years from now the stupid fucks that survive are going to be on camera going “I know it sounds weird, but it was really compelling at the time”. Except this cult doesn’t even have fun drug fueled orgies.

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      I’ve been involved in a number of cults both as a leader and a follower. You have more fun as a follower but you make more money as a leader.

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      I’ve seen a documentary about the Jan 6th timeline and one insurrectionist said this in an interview. He couldn’t think anymore and everything about it seemed like the best thing since the invention of toast. He allegedly saw his errors in hindsight. I’m more than convinced he is back in the cult. Can’t fix stupid.

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      He’s going to be in a position where he may actually be able to ban pasteurized milk, vaccines, and more.

      This is the most dangerous political appointment in US history.

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      Except this cult doesn’t even have fun drug fueled orgies.

      Drugs may be bad for one’s health, but orgies are good. So yes please. I’ll be the cult leader with prima noctae right.

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    We should stop posting about Trump and his group of extraordinary morons.

    The news cycle thrives on Trump, as every decision he makes manages to anger half the population, while the other half cheers him on simply to annoy liberals and progressives. This dynamic generates more clicks and ad revenue for news outlets, allowing Trump to continue making foolish decisions just to remain in the spotlight.

    The only way to change this is to stop giving him space in the news.

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        Repeating the problem wont make it go away either.

        Yet here we are after Trump’s awful first presidency and after he tried to overthrow the government. It’s all because we are giving him more attention than he deserves.

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      We are past this though. I remember screaming this into the air at the radio listening to Jack Speer on NPR in 2016. He was going on and on about the awful things Trump was saying and how we shouldn’t be hearing this. I screamed then why the fuck do you keep repeating it Jack, why?!? I blame the media 100% for his election in 2016, all that free publicity. 2024 though…I really don’t have any answers…

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      Actually…

      I think that of democracy will ever return to the US, current news outlets in the US should all go on the cutting block

      Fuck the 24 hour news cycle where “journalists” all hunt around like creeps to get that latest story because we gotta broadcast something in those 24 hours… Let’s broadcast any and all crime, making people feel unsafe. That’ll get us more clicks!

      News should be paid by an independent, neutral government organization that will finance actual journalism. The results from said journalism will be available on a number of sites, and maybe a Humber of TV channels at limited hours, like ut used to be in the past. News organizations should not and can not be owned by individuals, it WILL be abused. Laws must be enacted to require news to be truthful and anything even remotely pretending to be news should be limited by those laws. Mistakes can be made and when that happens, retractionsust be broadcasted or made available in websites with the same intensity as the mistake that was broadcasted

      The US needs news sources that they can trust in because say what you want about magas, they’re right in that the main stream media in the US is utter shit and cannot be trusted. It’s just that they are wrong about what sources are bad. They’re all bad, but their sources, fox news, oan, etc, are the worst by factors…

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      This should have happened after the 2020 election, but the news thrives on clicks and outrage, so they keep giving him attention and fucked us all for the sweet sweet revenue.

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        Unless he also outlaws pasteurized milk, I’ll have 0 sympathy for any adults that die drinking raw milk. This country seems to be in dire need of a toxic cleansing. I’m sad COVID didn’t do the job better.

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          Dude, you have to be careful these days. Reading labels like a hawk.

          National pharmacy chains like CVS and Walgreens stock homeopathic and naturopathic remedies on the same shelves as the actual medicine (or the bullshit they tell us is as good as pseudoephedrine. Fuck you, you know it’s not). Most of it is barely labeled as such.

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            If we are hopeful, that’s what RFK should go after in fact. Homeopathy.

            But, judging from where he starts, skoleotherapy, as in worm treatment, is the new fashion for you.

            I wanna play Plague Inc again.

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          While I get it and I wish people were more informed it’s because education has been dismantled on purpose. No one deserves do die, especially from the actions of others directly or indirectly. We really need to fight for better education standards and not stop, not go and dismantle the department of education…

          The only thing covid did was fhinder education with online classes and such. This is the year that the children born (19/20) right at the start of the pandemic are going to kinder they need all the support they can get…

          lets be better and do better, you can’t fight fire with fire…

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            My (night school) education, personally, improved quite a lot with COVID. Yep, it was disrupted. But instead of spending two hours in transport I’d be at my desk. Instead of just sitting in a boring depressing auditory with my ADHD, ASD and possibly PTSD, I was at my desk with tea and my laptop and maybe some food and my dog nearby.

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              Be stirring as the time; be fire with fire; Threaten the threatener and outface the brow Of bragging horror

              Shakespeare

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      You haven’t really tasted milk until you’ve sucked it right out a cow and finally we’ll have a government that makes sure that Americans know that taste too.

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        I’ve had fresh milk from the cow. I also now why pasteurization is required. I’m willing to forego that small pleasure in order that other people don’t die horribly.

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          Shifting yourself to death is what the founder intended and their imagined intent is literally all that matters.

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    Trump wants the population to be closer to 100 million. He said that before the start of one of his press conferences to a journalist … something to the effect that “we could use 2/3 less of all of you.”

    He is willing to kill off a lot of us to make his life easier. The USA elected a right wing Pol Pot.

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      And if you kill off brown people, you solve their demographic “issue” (it’s not actually an issue, they’re just racists). Two birds with one stone.

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      You’ll work harder with a gun in your back,

      For a bowl of rice a day,

      Slave for soldiers til you starve,

      Then your head is skewered on a stake

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    Raw milk is totally safe…if the cow is totally healthy and if there aren’t pathogens floating around the cow.

    I mean, my friend next door used to drink off the cows’s teats. His Mom would scold him for it, but he did it to show off. We used to milk their three “city cows”. Literally the cows would sleep in their garage and then walk to pasture on an every day basis. They would get milked every morning and we would walk to their house and buy a couple of liters from them. Sometimes cheese or bulgaros yogurt.

    Everyone loved the cows. They smelled like cows but you could safely pet them and not expect feces on your hands.

    The cows we get milk from are all rolling around in feces in confined space and they eat dry moldy feed. Like that stuff is total animal abuse and prone to end up giving someone a cow Bourne disease of some kind.

    My neighbors also had pigs and we had pigs. That is why we never ate pig… cows are clean compared to pigs. Pigs will eat bugs smeared in pig feces. That is not normal really because pigs in the wild, although dirty, do not just swim in their feces like captive pigs do. If you ever want to go vegan for whatever reason, visit a captive pig farm. Learn that smell…then go to the butcher shop’s trash bin and learn that smell…then realize that when you get your meat in your fridge, the death smell is what you’re smelling. Makes me wanna puke 🤮 just thinking about it. And if your neighbors ever killed a pig, you would know it. Pigs don’t go down easy. That’s one positive thing I can definitely say about pigs. They know you’re gonna kill them and they scream like anyone would…as in a person. It churns you inside out hearing that scream and then when it stops you know it happened. Pigs don’t go down quietly.

    Anyway don’t eat animals, but if you’re gonna eat milk or dairy, make sure it’s pasteurized! Any well understood retarded person like myself could agree 💯👍.

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      Yeah the state of factory dairy’s… You want that shit pasteurized. Feces everywhere. Cows have all kinds of diseases. Filthy environment. It all gets killed or deactivated by pasturing.

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        So do you think Trump will improve or worsen animal-welfare protections in agriculture? Which policy will let bad actors make a quick buck at the expense of the rest of us?

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          He signed a law against very specific animal torture of pets (don’t look it up) in his first term. He also signed a very specific law for increasing the speed of pig slaughter lines IIRC. So no. Livestock animals will be even more fucked (if that’s even possible in the US) as he is in the hands of big animal ag. He loves his farmers in Iowa as he said recently. Now is the best time to look up how to go vegan. Or the worst considering the drop in availability of alternative meat products that’s about to come. Remember if you don’t pay for it animal ag has to consider their practices. A big producer of meat products in Germany (Rügenwalder)has a lot of its productline switched to plant based in the last years because of the demand.

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          I can’t imagine it’s going to be any better. I’m not sure I even find US/Can doing enough as is.

          When we have a disease like bird flu roll through our herds, it seems like we just throw up our hands and say “oh well pasturing deactivates it”

          But you still have a sick cow, even if they aren’t obviously symptomatic. They will produce less, treatments for other stuff will be less effective, they will be less healthy. And at the scale of most farms, all that has an effect. It just gradually makes things harder for farmers.

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      Raw milk is totally safe…if the cow is totally healthy and if there aren’t pathogens floating around the cow.

      Yeah, we’ll just make sure that the cows are healthy using the USDA’s regulatory capabilities. After Trump fires all of the career experts and replaces them with sycophants. What could go wrong.

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      Same friend got in trouble for shooting milk from the cow onto incoming city traffic in front of his house. All this as pre-teen kids ofcourse. You wouldn’t find a self respecting adult…yes you probably would.

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    If they allow non-prescription antibiotic use too, and gut Federal law requiring quarantine, that’s a great way to get resistant strains of tuberculosis.

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    What I’m reading is that they want to foster the greatest source of bankruptcies in the US, healthcare costs, while lowering the living standards to turn the US into a “third world shithole country”. For added irony, while also having an oligarch who had to migrate away from his home country for contributing to do the same in their birth country and not being able to reap what they sowed, just to end up doing the same in their new country.

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    Let’s get back to the good old days from the 1700 where we would all die of dysentery!

    Can we please make a rule in that stupid US constitution that says that claims from politicians have to be supported by actual peer reviewed scientific evidence before they can utter said claim?

    It would make the difference of light and day already