You’ve got to let the police do their jobs, number one. Number two, you have to do a policy of stop and frisk. When you see a guy coming down the street and you can — the police know every one of them. They know their middle name. They know where they live. They know every one of them, the local police, and they’re great.
You got to let them do their job, stop and frisk, and take their gun away. You’ve got to do it. If somebody has because they have all these guns — you know, it’s very interesting, the toughest gun law, the toughest, by far, in the whole United States is in Chicago, and yet it’s the most — it’s —
Let all your Republican 2Aer friends and family know.
Everybody calm down. There’s a reason that the 2Aers won’t get mad about this.
This is as racist of a dog whistle as you can get. Lots of people are aware “stop and frisk” really means “stop and frisk minorities and plant drugs and weapons when you can.”
So it’s perfectly in line with the “law and order” bullshit. Don’t expect a lot of anger about these comments. To the shitheads, these comments are directed at the “right” people. Cops wouldn’t stop and frisk them, they think, because cops know that they’re a law abiding citizen by the color of their skin.
Racists gonna fuckin racist, man. First gun control we ever got in the USA was because white people got freaked out by black people with guns.
You might be able to chip a few away by calling him a “gun grabber.” They probably won’t vote for Harris, but they won’t vote for Trump either. They might just sit it out.
Chip a few away here and a few away there… that might be all that’s needed.
Gun Grabbin’ Donnie
That’s G… r… a… b… b… i… n… Apostrophe
Grab em by the pistols
When you’re a cop they let you do it.
Grab 'em by the gun. You can do anything.
Grab 'em by the Glock.
Give them the ol’ Glock twist!
Fascists don’t win on facts and logic, they win on affect.
He says one thing about guns, but means something about hurting minorities. His electorate only cares about the second part. Literally anything you could argue about the first part is worse than useless, because through sheer power of denial they’ll revert to affect on this well-practiced talking point (”Trump love guns, Trump hate [insert slur here], Trump just like me"). You can’t win on this battlefield, no matter how objectively and obviously right you are.
That’s why “Trump is weird” is so unbelievably more effective than “Trump is a rapist”, “Trump is a fascist”, “Trump is a criminal” or “Trump is a traitor”. Pointing out his weirdness directly undermines his affect. “We’re not going back” calls back to the constant feeling of dread of his presidency. Ironically when dealing with humans, but especially when dealing with fascists, affect and core values are more important and less malleable than facts.
I literally just learned the word affect like… 4 hours ago, what the fuck?
That’s the Baader Meinhof Phenomenon (AKA the Frequency Illusion) - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frequency_illusion
This is something I learned about decades ago, but never really experienced. Now I see it all the time and it’s fucking weird. The simulation is breaking down
If we in a simulation, I hope that shit breaks all the way down.
They clearly forgot to install the Livin’ Large and Makin’ Magic expansions. Can we get an afterlife and some damn wizards up in here?
They probably won’t vote for Harris, but they won’t vote for Trump either.
This is actually possible. There’s a “don’t tread on me” type that has been using their yard as a political billboard for years and i just recently noticed that while they’re still anti- our current Democrat governer, they took down their pro-Trump stuff as well. Now there’s some sign about Jill Stein that’s up but seems a lot less flamboyant.
Gun Grabber Don? You mean the only 21st century American president to sign an unconstitutional gun ban?
I think we all agree on the middle path. Keep posting bc every single voter counts. And share relevant expectations with the community who may not be 100% knowledgeable of the nuance.
Same reason the NRA barely made a peep about Philando Castile. Licensed to carry a gun, dutifully announced that to the officer, and got killed for it. A year later they said that was a shame or something like that and then immediately forgot about it again. White agent of the state good, black gun owner bad. The conservative gun rights movement has always been motivated by racism.
Conservatism is “there must be outgroups for the law to bind but not protect, and in groups for the law to protect but not bind” manifests again, here.
Read this comment before the article and thought it surely wouldn’t be as obvious as you’re stating.
Spoiler: with Chicago, it’s usually more obvious.
One day I will finally untangle my sense of obligation to give bigots the benefit of the doubt. Can’t wait but it’s a lot of work and self reflection.
To the shitheads, these comments are directed at the “right” people. Cops wouldn’t stop and frisk them, they think, because cops know that they’re a law abiding citizen by the color of their skin.
The joke is that it’s the same damned thing when Eric Adams or Beto ORourke suggests it.
Take the guns from the poors is always the subtext. You never talk about disarming the police or curtailing access to private security.
Republicans just want to be vigilantes. And they’re mad at Democrats when they can’t hunt people in their neighborhood for sport.
I’ve talked to a fair number of progressives who are perfectly fine allowing firearms ownership based solely on class and wealth. They too, want “gun control” based on class and wealth.
Indeed. They see all black people as criminals, I’m sure they’re thinking “If we get him on a bullshit charge now, he can’t steal a bicycle to sell for more hoodjuice or whatever it is those rappers sing about.”
Disgraceful.
Newsflash: Dark Skin is not evidence of guilt, but try telling the cops that…
Yep - “the police know everyone of them”
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OP and everyone in the comments are pretending he’s talking about the 2nd amendment but he’s just talking about good old fashioned racism.
Yeah, he’s pretty clearly saying he wants police to selectively take guns from those they think are problem starters. Though it wouldn’t surprise me if he wants that group to include categories his wannabe shooter would have fit in, which probably will end up including many people he relies on for support.
So what you’re saying is… you’re coming for their guns? Just making sure. OK.
No, obviously not the guns of real people, just the ones who get stopped and frisked by the police. Y’know… the ones you can tell are evil because they’re… y’know, wink wink nudge nudge “urban”.
Republicans: You can never take our guns!
Trump: Take their guns!
Republicans:
It wouldn’t be the first time. Like when Black Panthers were enjoying their 2nd Amendment rights. All of a sudden Republicans jumped on gun control.
Wouldn’t even be the first time for trump. He banned bump stocks via executive order after the Vegas shooting.
Good point. A ruling rolled back while the Democrats are ruling (albeit by the Supreme Court which heavily weights towards Republican).
The NRA must receive its blood sacrifice (and occasional payment from Russia).
I’m pretty sure the whole “the police know who they are, they know where they live, they know their middle name” bit means not-white-male.
So, it’s a 3-way tug-of-war between gun fanaticism, their reincarnated jesus, and racismIn my experience, if the police know who you are, where you live, etc, they also have a pretty good idea if you have a gun or not.
Yeah the frisking is code for police brutality
Republicans: yes I’m still voting for the face eating leopard party!
Funny how a few weeks ago he was asskissing the NRA and gun community
Like anything with him, when the obvious happened now he’ll suddenly change his mind… and probably start saying something about Mexicans and “crooked Biden,” isn’t tough on crime which is why he got shot, etc
I feel like I lose iq from reading this
so, once again, Trump is talking about putting in place 2A restrictions. I guess he wants to be like Reagan.
Only for certain people, likely based upon race. The usual rules for some, not for others.
Just like Reagan
Two-term?
Reagan implemented gun control as well.
perhaps 6 feet under?
One can dream
The media and the people often do gymnastics to “translate trump” and interpret his dog whistle gibberish… STOP.
Don’t read into this, read it on it’s face and report it out to whoever - “trump wants to take your guns. Period.”
Its black and white , right from his weird mouth with the “old man foam” frothing up on the sides.
The NRA is awfully quiet all of a sudden…
They’ll just reshape it to “illegals with guns”
stop and frisk was awful but regular Republican voters don’t remember it because they’ve never lived in a city. most of what these idiots talk about has nothing to do with them at all
Regular republican voters dont remember it cause they were never a target for stop and frisk, because the melanin content in their skin isnt typically high enough to trigger cops.
They know he means “take guns from black people”. They support that.
What I came to say. They know precisely what he means and they support it wholeheartedly.
TRUMP: First of all, you — I know the people in Chicago. I know the police, because I built the building there. I spent a lot of time — the building, it was a — it’s a great building, a really great building.
How are serious people, seriously voting for this guy again?
The other team has taken a stance against racism so now this team had to adopt racism and due to a troubled history of racism in the USA and a majority demographic of 70% white folks, probably even more voter demographics, the Racism has a non-zero chance of winning.
It doesn’t help that we’re just now stepping into a whole new era of algorithmically manipulating the masses with digital psyops.
He hates the same people they do. They don’t give a shit. The real irony is, he hates them too.
Sounds like the unfiltered ‘stream of thought’ of an 8 year old.
Who’s ‘they’?
The people the drug war targets. Black people, latino people, anti-war people, etc.
Who it always is.
It always comes down to bigotry.
It won’t matter to Republicans, they’ll even agree with it, because to them, they know he’s talking about bad people, and by “bad people”, he’s of course referring to low-life black and latino thugs, people who really shouldn’t be having guns (in their minds). They just don’t want their own guns taken away, they don’t care if other people have their guns taken away.
They already believe in stripping gun rights to leftists already, and they get very angry when called out on it.
If they know these people are active criminals they will have no problem citing just cause for arrest and search.
I live in Canada, our gun rules are different than the USA. This week in my city some charges against a dangerous criminal were dropped because the police had a “flagrant disregard for charter rights” (according to the judge) (oir charter rights are similar to American civil rights)
They searched him improperly, and found a loaded, illegal gun. Charges dismissed. If they had handled it properly they could have made the charges stick. What a waste of everyone’s time. Police didn’t respect his rights because they don’t respect my rights.
In Canada pigs break the law & the charter & guess what happens to them? SAY IT LOUD ACAB
We expect criminals to break the law. We do not expect or support police that break the law.