• Realitaetsverlust@lemmy.zip
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    21 hours ago

    Voting with the wallet is mostly bullshit

    Disagree completely. It’s the most effective tool we have to control corpos that does not rely on another entity.

    they bought a politician or twelve … the only way to fight corpos is the governmental power or regulations

    So, you yourself say they buy politicians, but in the same sentence, you want the people they are buying to fight their power with regulations?

    Do you see where you went wrong here?

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      21 hours ago

      How do you leave when your friends, family and coworkers are all on iMessage and refuse to use anything cross platform? This literally affects people’s professional relationships and close personal connections.

      No my friend, Apple has perfected lock-in and turned it into an art. Just because it doesn’t affect you doesn’t mean it’s not an issue.

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        18 hours ago

        You can see how much of an impact this has - in my (rich European) country only 30% use apple devices and everyone uses WhatsApp for communication (also not good but far better than imessage, and there’s a slow shift towards signal happening)

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        20 hours ago

        How do you leave when your friends, family and coworkers are all on iMessage and refuse to use anything cross platform

        “Hey, since I don’t want to use apple devices anymore because the company sucks, I’ve decided to ditch it, therefore, I will not longer have access to iMessage. If you need to contact me, you can use XYZ (insert alternative here) or just call me/send a SMS.”

        That’s what I did when ditching whatsapp. Is it easy? No, ofc not. Ditching something for moral reasons is never easy. Do you think it was easy for me to ditch microsoft for linux when I started out? Hell no. But it gets other people to think about it. Some will laugh about it and say: “haha my funny nephew who wants to save the world himself (insert laugh emoji here)” while other will be genuinely interested in why you made this decision and might follow it. That’s how you get people to think by the way.

        Pretending like you need a specific messenger like iMessage for communication is dishonest at best and straightup stupid and manipulative at worst.

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          19 hours ago

          “Hey, since I don’t want to use apple devices anymore because the company sucks, I’ve decided to ditch it, therefore, I will not longer have access to iMessage. If you need to contact me, you can use XYZ (insert alternative here) or just call me/send a SMS.”

          that only works when a majority of them relies on you. That’s rarely the situation in reality

          Pretending like you need a specific messenger like iMessage for communication is dishonest at best and straightup stupid and manipulative at worst.

          thinking like this is ignorant at best and intentionally manipulative at worst

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            19 hours ago

            a majority of them relies on you

            Imagine friends and family only want to stay in touch because they “rely” on you. Bro that’s outright sad.

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              16 hours ago

              yeah imagine. oh wait I think I remembered something… coworkers! or is it just my wild imagination? I’m not so sure anymore…

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      18 hours ago

      That’s the whole point, when you do useless shit like buying from one corpo instead of another, they only need to buy couple of politicians to succeed. The only way for you to combat it is to elect politicians they can’t buy and apply political pressure to the rest of them, so they can’t buy them all. If instead of that you play their game and try to outbuy a corpo that owns half of your country already, not only you will lose every time, you are actually doing exactly they want you to do.
      “No ethical consumption under capitalism” is about this, not anything else.