• blazera@lemmy.world
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      6 days ago

      Right, that includes Trump. Its been a democrat funding and supporting this genocide the entire time. You hypocrites cant use these deaths to fuckin support democrats.

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        6 days ago

        because Donald “I will let Netyanahu finish the job” Trump is somehow better for this. Get your head out of your ass lol

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          6 days ago

          Take a minute to read that headline again. You got Trump for this now, because you insisted to everyone to accept that headline, those deaths, that ‘better than this’ just isnt an option. You wouldnt permit people that care about life, that oppose genocide somewhere else to go. So they went nowhere, because genocide is not an option.

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            Your bloody avoidance for voting anyone has led not only to Gaza getting flattened, but also women’s rights, lgbt rights, any form of medical care, Ukraine, and the climate.

            The blood is on your fucking hands now. At least Kamala would have seen reason and you could probably have talked to her/her party about Israel.

            Good luck with fucking ignorant Trump, who won’t even listen when a woman says no to him.

            But thank God you didn’t vote for anyone doing genocide! I will feel so relieved you did that when Russia has a border with my fucking country

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              6 days ago

              You are describing things that have already happened, are current events, all under democrats, and them promising more of the same.

              I did vote, for the candidate that opposes the genocide.

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                6 days ago

                Since when are democrats the ones pushing abortion bans? Since when are they the ones wanting to withdraw from the Paris Climate Accord? Since when are blue states the ones banning books that contain any mention of queer people?

                From my knowledge blue states have been doing anything but those things. It’s red states that are doing all sorts of shady shit, and it’s Trump literally saying he will: -Withdraw the U.S. from the Climate Accord -Appoint RFK as head of medicine -Get rid of education department -Withdraw spending in Ukraine and talk to his lover Putin -Increase tariffs on EU which in turn will just hurt U.S. economy

                you can blabber all day about how democrats are doing X Y Z wrong, but Trump is doing all of that PLUS more and way worse. No one likes this man, not even his own party members.

                But I guess the best way to deal with a truck about to hit you is to close your eyes and hope for the best

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                  6 days ago

                  Roe got overturned. Climate change is continuing to accelerate and democrats did a lot to make that happen, thats a long discussion though.

                  close your eyes and hope for the best

                  Again, I voted. I dont care that you think that a vote for a progressive candidate doesnt count, i took action.

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                    5 days ago

                    I don’t think you understand. This election wasn’t about expressing your moral superiority by not voting for Genocider A or Double Genocider B

                    This election was about preventing Double Genocider B from winning. You could only do that by voting Genocide A and sucking up the morally fucked choice. You failed, miserably. Had you voted for A, in 4 years you would have had the chance to happily vote for any third fourth or fifth party your heart desired. Good luck with that now when Trump brcomes God King.

                    Good fucking job on wasting your vote away and letting both Ukraine and Palestine get fucked. And the climate.

                    You are a fucking imbecile

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                    6 days ago

                    The American education system has failed you. I’m assuming by “a progressive candidate” in this case you mean a third party, but in a first-past-the-post voting system, voting third-party is a protest vote. At best, people voting third-party shows that voters don’t have confidence in the major parties, but at worst it helps your least preferred of the two major parties win the election because you’re not begrudgingly voting for the candidate you hate less. A third-party president is an unimaginable upset.

                    But if you’re not living in a swing state nobody cares how you vote for president anyway. Hopefully you got a good option for Congress in the primaries. That’s the only thing I had any chance of influencing at a federal level for this election cycle. I’m not in a swing state and in the final election I only got one option for senate and all one candidate could say was that they weren’t the other candidate.

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            6 days ago

            And yet accelerated genocide is the option that was chosen.

            Look, I get the argument you’re making. The problem is that it hinges entirely on accepting a premise that isn’t based in reality. Progress, specifically as it relates to harm reduction, doesn’t happen instantaneously. It never has. You take the wins you can get and then push for the next step. You can be mad about that, and I would argue that we all should be, but it’s not going to change the way things work. In this case you’ve let idealism get in the way of actual tangible improvement. Even if you disagree with that characterization you can’t dispute the fact that you’ve at least helped shut the door on the potential for improvement. If you can find a way to rationalize that in your head to make you feel like the good guy then I understand why you would want to take that path, but do you honestly believe the people of Gaza take solace in the fact that you had good intentions? I’d wager they don’t give a shit how you frame this in your mind. They’re just thinking about what a Trump presidency means for the future of this conflict and that isn’t good by any stretch of the imagination.

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              6 days ago

              This is deranged. Progress? Improvement? What did Kamala say she would do differently? Did she say she’d stop sending weapons and financial assistance?

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                Even if you disagree with that characterization you can’t dispute the fact that you’ve at least helped shut the door on the potential for improvement.

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                  What did Kamala say she would do differently? You cant keep talking about progress and improvement without any signs of either. The only potential for improvement we have is a progressive candidate