• I'm back on my BS 🤪@lemmy.autism.place
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    3 months ago

    I feel like I’m going insane. How is this even happening right now? One of two presidential candidates is so old, that his own party is asking him to not run because he looked like an elderly person that got lost at the grocery store during a live presidential debate. The other is a deranged narcissist that was the previous president, clearly colluding with Russia, has be found guilty of 34 felonies, attempted to overthrow the previous election, and has explicitly stated he will be a dictator.

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      3 months ago

      Biden is only like 18mos older than Trump. They’re essentially equally old. Like a 2% difference in their ages.

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        3 months ago

        Being in the White House drastically ages the president, VP, and senior staff due to the insane amounts of stress and long hours that come with the job.

        It’s not easy.

        Biden has been in the WH for 12 years.

        trump for four, but he’s too fucking stupid to be worried. So the stress never got to him. If he saw something he didn’t like, he ripped up the paper, tried to eat it, then flushed it. And trump would have 100% forgotten about it immediately.

        Which is why they can be essentially the same age (18 months is nothing in your 80s) but Biden seems so much worse. Biden is used to thinking about what to say, trump just opens his mouth and rambles like he always has.

        But with all that being said:

        We need higher standards to get Dem voters onboard. A bad candidate that’s better than trump is still a bad candidate. We don’t need someone who tries to think of what to say but can’t say it, we need someone that can think of a competent response and then communicate that effectively.

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          but Biden seems so much worse

          I don’t get this take. Trump has been shouting incoherent word salad and confabulations for years at this point. Biden seems like a decent man who is too old for the job. Trump is a treasonous piece of shit rapist criminal who is also old and senile, and backed by actual fascists who want to take the US back to the dark ages.

          I don’t think voting will be enough, they tried a coup once and now they’re being invited to try again since there were no consequences last time.

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            Trump has been shouting incoherent word salad and confabulations for years at this point

            Exactly…

            He’s never put thought into what comes out of his mouth, he just opens it.

            So while both are experiencing normal effects of aging, Trump’s never made it a habit to use his frontal lobe, and that’s where this shit hits first.

            So there’s no observable difference in his behavior.

            Like, imagine you suffered a stroke and lost the ability to ride a bike. If you’re Lance Armstrong it’s a huge deal. If you’re some 80 year old fat fuck who thinks exercise lowers your “battery” it has zero effect on your life because you dont ride a bike.

            Biden was pretty unanimously labeled “the greatest modern political orator” back in the 80s. It wasn’t even really debatable.

            Seriously, he was at the absolute peak of his game and no one could touch him. But he lost it a long time ago, it didn’t start recently. Look at the 08 debates and he’s more than serviceable still, but already a shadow of his former self.

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    3 months ago

    That’s exactly what I will expect him to say, right up until he leaves.

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      3 months ago

      It is extremely disappointing that he didn’t take this opportunity to gracefully step back. People who watched the debate saw his performance and him trying to say “Nah bro, I got this” is really stupid.

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        3 months ago

        This is bigger than me, so I’ll step aside to beat Trump.

        Would pretty much guarantee whoever filled his spot became president.

        But moderates demand 100% loyalty. Even if Biden thinks they’re right eventually, he’s not going to change his mind for “the left”. Even when it’s other moderates. He’s been turning on a lot of allies immediately after they even questioned if he should stay in, and claiming CNN and the NY times all sorts of shit despite them backing him all the way up till now.

        Biden has never been good at accepting criticism or dealing with confrontation. It’s what torpedoed his first primary back in 88. If someone isn’t with him, Biden considers them against him.

        He’s a lot like trump in that regard, loyalty is a one way street.

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            3 months ago

            I’m making a called shot at a distance.

            He had his meeting with the Governers today. I expect the announcement maybe Thursday evening, then the interview to explain Friday. The test balloons went out and came back this weekend. The goose is cooked.

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              3 months ago

              Thursday is July 4, I doubt Biden will announce that night while the fireworks are going off. But if things continue to be this bad, it could be Friday or Monday.