ShimmeringKoi [comrade/them]

And the ones who don’t mind the evil are increasingly seeing it as a bad bet

Someone should try and call this in and livestream what happens

If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.

Time is a flat circle

Most of the hexbear people I run into here are not even communists and barely know the first thing about communism

Well damn, I guess I must have hallucinated all the monthly book clubs. But hey, I don’t want to be trafficking with fake communists, so I’m very glad I ran into you! Can you please tell me where the hexbears have gone wrong so that I and others may avoid repeating their mistakes? It’s only the comradely thing to do, and besides, it would be dangerous and irresponsible to leave misinformation uncountered. So, what is the “first thing” about communism that they’re missing?

For all the failures of the US

Failures? What on earth are you talking about, failures? All of these ventures have been massively successful, they generated untold billions in profits for our oligarchs. You only view them as failures because you still believe for some reason that they were ever supposed to help you at all. The US hasn’t failed it’s people, we’re just not it’s people. It’s you who’s failed to understand this situation.

As usual, the latent American exceptionalist propaganda that’s programmed into all of us from birth keeps you from viewing America as you would view any other nation-state, or one of it’s rivals. We’re told we have the biggest, bestest American moral aspirations and that justifies our actions, but we’re also trained to carve out constant exceptions and excuses for why America has never, ever come close to meeting them. We learn to endlessly justify the atrocities of our own society while collapsing the actions of every other society down to some innate cartoonish quality, usually winkingly implied to be racial. Your worldview can only make sense for more than five seconds if you exclusively grant America some complexity and capacity for “redemption” that you deny to everyone else who America wantonly destroys, as if they aren’t real enough to warrant anything but smug dismissal.

It’s a cartoon view of the world that has led you to cartoon conclusions, its no wonder you’re giving me the Flawed City on a Hill cliche. It’s West Wing shit, not reality. In reality, America has never not been fascist. The fascism just wasn’t evenly distributed, same as everything else.

But as usual, when faced with the most abbreviated possible list of their own crimes, any one of which would make another country irredeemably autocratic in their eyes, the liberal response is to retreat into “it’s complicated.” The final mask of moral cowardice in the face of incontrovertible evil. Colonialism was “complicated”. Chattel slavery was “complicated”. Blair Mountain was “complicated”. Fucking MKULTRA, Tuskegee, Paperclip, leveling Asia with bombs, Iraq and Afghanistan were all “complicated” according to the legions of carefully cultivated, amoral yes-men who’s only role at every historical juncture has been to solemnly shake their heads at the carnage while giving it the thumbs up to continue. Our current pet genocide in Palestine was “complicated” right up until that facade became too hard to maintain, and they just stopped talking about it. Now the US seems intent on starting WW3, and you can bet any amount of money that it will initially be sold as “complicated”, right up until they throw a switch from “it’s complicated” to “exterminate the brutes”, and by that point all the liberals will be fully on board. Just look how quickly, how gleefully so many of them took to calling russian people “orcs”. I want to give you a genuine warning, just from one person to another: you are being sleepwalked into fascism, and its actually not that complicated at all; it’s the worldview that is taught to us which is overly simple.

“People with money and power have all the say”.

Thank god we don’t have that in the capitalist west, can you imagine? Why, they could just carry out a genocide and send the police to bludgeon and teargas protestors, they could dissappear activists into blacksites and torture them for days, they could install fascist governments everywhere and poison the world, and just wave nukes at anyone who tried to stop them.

What an unimaginable nightmare that would be, I’m so glad I don’t live under the kind of irredeemable oligarcical government that would be defined by doing those things.

Also your understanding of power is a tautology. The people with power have the power? Interesting, much to consider

When Russia advances slowly, it’s because of their inferior slavjank vehicles and wargear. When they advance quickly, it’s because of their unlimited human waves.

Maybe I’m dating myself, but when I see comments like this it reminds me of Home Alone. Specifically the part of Home Alone where Kevin’s siblings are telling him lurid and outlandish horror stories about the old guy who lives next door, which all obviously turn out to be wild bullshit.

I think of this when I see people who have clearly only heard about hexbear secondhand from the bitterly banned, try to make fun of it with no real information to work from. Yeah man, we’re all communists but we all somehow missed the memo about 1991, that makes sense. You remind me of when I used to be a liberal who made Winnie the pooh jokes to Chinese people, just so far out of your depth that you can’t even perceive how deeply embarrassing you’re being.

They had a lot of HP so it took several accidents in a row

No cause of death stated, which makes me think it’s either something subtle and hard to detect like a poison, or something unpublishably obvious like a bullet

And?

People always say Mao killed so many people, but when pressed for how they just say “famine”. If that’s the standard, how many people does world capitalism kill? Don’t let perfect be the enemy of good🤷‍♂️

The Menendez brothers are innocent! (of mass murder)

How, pray tell,

Checkmate

holy shit my comrade was right on the money, Discord moderator energy levels off the charts

Google Operation Aerodynamic, i’m not gonna spoonfeed you information you’ll just petulantly spit out to preserve your protofascist worldview.

A tiny minority with military and political power who have been attempting genocide in the Donbas for eight years, yes.

Ah, the old myth about the perfidious, untrustworthy minority with dual loyalties who are surely plotting with The Enemy. Who, pray tell, might have an interest in propagating such narratives?

In any case Ukrainians disagree with you and keep on fighting

Yeah, that’s why they’ve been kidnapping people to the front lines, because the Ukranian people want to fight so much. That’s why they conscripted prison inmates and forbid any man undder 60 from leaving when the war broke out, right. Because of all that popular will to fight.