Anything that serves as a bedrock for self-reflection, nuance, and questioning one’s own premises.

@Shardikprime@lemmy.world won’t be specific because of their cowardice.

You responded to me first, dummy. So, kick rocks barefoot.

Codified capitalism, anarchism, republicanism, and socialism are liberal philosophies that find their roots historically in the enlightenment. “Lib” isn’t the insult that tankies and MAGAs think it is.

FWIW, I advocate for democratic market socialism.

This is you, then.

So, you’re triggered enough by my pushback about people not knowing what “liberal” means enough to try to make me insertNegativeEmotionHere?

In a very reductive sense it means if you’re offended by being called it, then it means you.

Wannabe pejoratives usually are overly reductive.

I just think the tankies and MAGA types don’t even know what it really means. Republicanism and Marxism are historically both liberal political philosophies that find their roots in the enlightenment.

I think they want to say “corporatist neoliberal”, but it’s too many syllables or requires too much thought. “Lib” makes for a nicer stone to throw.

“That shit” is far better than the alternative.

Sorry, you wanted this world; you voted for it.

You seem to be unaware or are forgetting that the majority of white women wanted it too. The exit poll stats show the majority of people across the board in about every demographic “wanted this world”; it was a massive defeat for the vestiges of the American political left.

The Trump campaign successfully set up their media machine to equate every environmental protection, women’s autonomy, labor protection, and re-enfranchisement policy proposal of the working class to a talking point of a screeching radical feminist harpy cartoon character that’s bent on “destroying the patriarchy churches, and America.”

The DNC handwaved the concerns of the working class again to fellate the billionaire and corporate donors, the “moderate” republicans, and the social justice warriors simultaneously, thinking that would work somehow.

The blame lies on the us if we let the DNC establishment keep their jobs in the next round of primaries.

Yes, I’m aware of the “paradox of intolerance”.

You’re doing great comrade; the revolution is one more snarky internet comment and molotov sippy-cup away.

I would define it as “corporatist neo-liberalism”, which is the real enemy from within of what remains of the political left of the United States.

If we’re talking about Tim Poole in relation to this post, then his “punishment” is still just someone willing to abandon his principles because of the screeching of annoying people. Still a spineless idiot.

If we’re talking about the electorate as a whole, the blame lies on the DNC and the entrenched corporatists who continuously handwave away the concerns of the working class and pander to the screeching harpies, billionaire class, and supposed GOP “moderates”.

That makes for very schizophrenic campaign messaging. Which is their fault, and why they need to be voted out.

Should I not have voted?

Libs Corporatist DNC embraced the Cheneys and told Bernie and Tlaib et al to go fuck themselves.

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So words don’t matter to you, got it.

Just say you’re gonna fucking ignore what’s happening.

I voted blue up and down the ballot in every election possible in my adult life since 2000, despite the corporatist fellating DNC. I’ve demonstrated. I’ve donated. I’ve written to congressmen. I was in a union earlier in my career.

I’ve been called worse than “shitlib”. Try harder.

The supposedly “PC” left is full of fucking obnoxious and annoying brats who don’t know anything about morality, anthropology, history, political theory, and basic statistics. They demonize white men en masse incessantly and condescend to any who challenge their half-baked fan-fictions or propose some sort of nuance to their premises. Many of them base their entire personalities on their mental illnesses and grievances.

But I still voted for Harris because, fundamentally, that’s better odds of survival for the environment, unions, women’s autonomy, protections for whistleblowers, antitrust measures, counters to Russian and CCP aggression, and basically everything else that actually matters to the survival of the species and our federal republic. IT DOESN’T REQUIRE A GRADUATE DEGREE TO FIGURE THAT OUT, TIMMY, YOU BALD CUCK.

Adults don’t abandon their principles because of some dumbasses “on their side”. And by the way, Harris was a dogshit corporatist establishment candidate that I’d NEVER vote for if given different circumstances.

To all the infallible unblemished champions of the proletarian revolution who are shitting on “libs”:

According to the Concise Oxford Dictionary of Politics and Western Political Theory in the Face of the Future, this is the definition of liberalism:

Liberalism is a political and moral philosophy based on the rights of the individual, liberty, consent of the governed, political equality, right to private property and equality before the law.

In your own words, what do you think “lib” means? And if you’re going with my cited textbook definition, what’s so offensive to you about the tenets that are listed?

Either words’ definitions matter or they don’t, and if they don’t, then none of what you say matters.

No; definitely wary of those who advocate for armed insurgency against governments without a plan, exit strategy, and explicitly outlined intent for governance if successful.

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If such a metric (being “civilized”) could be graphed, I’d imagine it would be an oscillating sin wave on a slight upward trajectory.

This is sort of the endgame. We fight now.

What’s your plan to overthrow the government, in practical terms? How many casualties are acceptable? Do you even have a plan? Or are you just trying to vent?