• Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net
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    12 days ago

    Anyone else not buying that he’s the guy? He was found with a gun, fake IDs and a manifesto. What about the big red bow that makes this story totally believable?

    My bullshit detector is going off.

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      Okay so what’s the play here? They fake a CEO death to nab a “terrorist” before he actually does something, plant a bunch of crap on him and now they’re confused why people love him?

      Russian plant to destroy the western economy?

      Maybe he’s just not as good at this as we thought, and got busted before he could do round 2?

      But yes… who the fuck carries a manifesto? My only guess is someone who expected to get caught.

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        The CEO death was definitely not faked or planned. It’s possible this guy is a patsy so they can wrap the case up. He was apparently already in custody for a firearms offense when they flagged him as the killer. It does seem awfully convenient just how much evidence they’re claiming to have tying him to the murder. I suppose we’ll know for sure if another health insurance executive gets what they have coming to them following this arrest.

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          I lived in Altoona for a few years. Altoona cops, and Johnstown Cops are nepotistic and corrupt AF. I could totally see them planting shit on the guy, especially since they have him on suicide watch. Suicide watch is essentially even more torturous solitary confinement.

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          He just didn’t dump the gun. Probably because it took a lot of work to make it himself. But it seems like a lot of planning on behalf of the government to put all those photos of him out there before actually finding him. Like, if they busted him because of someone finding him “suspicious” then yeah that’s weird. But those security images are of him in the area.

          I’m not so much arguing as just not yet convinced there is enough to be evidence of a conspiracy. He’s just not a professional hitman and either made mistakes or just didn’t care after he succeeded.

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      I could see this guy being an accomplish while the real shooter can still work, if he is I bet he has a great alaby

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    …the internet is flooded with expressions of support and love for the suspected killer—a development experts find concerning.

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        Usually the experts aren’t the ones with the ability to do much

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      Experts:

      MAGA movement becomes volatile and aggravating enough to get traction and push a large portion of the country to reelect trump and all he stands for.

      “Seems like a normal election, people chose the party with the policy they liked, people are in a sound mental state”

      Also experts:

      CEO murdered after just one of the corporate victims finally decides to take a stand against the injustice. People laud him for standing up for everyone.

      “Its concerning people have taken this extreme view”

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    Before his identity was revealed on Monday, his online supporters, primarily on TikTok, Bluesky, and X, had created an entire fictionalized version of the shooter as a left-wing revolutionary hero who was standing up for the millions of Americans whose lives have been impacted negatively by interactions with the healthcare system.

    Riiiight, a total fiction…

    /s

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    These sellers are trying to cash in on the internet’s peculiar fascination with Mangione, whose good looks and privileged background have garnered him fans despite him being accused of a high-profile murder in broad daylight.

    suuure, it’s his looks and privilege that has garnered him fans, that’s not a deliberate misreading at all

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    Never have I seen such blatant evidence that the news media is completely made up controlled opposition bullshit.

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    Concerning that people get fed up with corporate greed? I’m thinking this is just the beginning.

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    He is my father, and my mother, he is my brother, and me, and you.

    In case that one was too subtle

    A CEO is a symbol, as is the act of destroying them. Symbols are given power by people, alone destroying a CEO means nothing, but with enough people destroying a CEO can change the world

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    I want the owners to feel uncomfortable.

    Im all for this.

    Put Luigi everywhere.

    Even they look out their limo windows at the plebs walking by.

    Let them see Luigi, let them see DENY DEFEND DEPOSE

    Make the owner’s guard gated world feel like a gilded cage.

    Make them feel explicitly unwelcome on every sidewalk they too have to walk down to get to the resturaunt/show/etc they want to go to. Everywhere their exploited congregate.

    They destroyed the Commons, send the message they can get the fuck out of them.

    You might think it won’t matter, but these are the types that lose their fucking minds being denied anything.

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    How quickly can they get him into a court room, convict him and execute him, if they pull out all stops? Every day that he’s alive is another day that the real culprit might plug another CEO in the same way, revealing that they just framed a patsy.

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          Tell me how much you love corporate America. Tell me how awesome trump is. Tell me how important it is that the plebs obey the laws of the land while the ruling class rape and pillage.

          The twisted logic is that we have allowed it to get to this point. They all need to be deposed

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              Yeah I think the people who actively sacrifice lives for a dollar deserve what they get, and until our government actually protects us from these vultures, we have no other option than to protect ourselves.

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                That’s why you justify shooting them in the back? I guess you’re the same as Trump, you don’t believe in laws.

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                  I don’t believe the ruling class is exempt from responsibility. If our government is paving the road for them then we cannot trust the government to hold them accountable.

                  So yes. It’s justified, it’s right, it’s a good start, and I will applaud anyone who focuses on specific individuals making money on the lives of the people.

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                  There are no laws for them. It has been made abundantly clear, time and time again, that the rich and powerful do not need to follow the same laws that us plebs need to. There is no court that will prosecute their crimes, no politician that will fight to defend us from them. The only option left is violence.

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          Justice would be universal healthcare (including mental, dental, and vision care, whole body care) and abolishment of the private health insurance industry. The DoJ is only there to protect the oligarchy. It’s not on our side.

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            Well sure, that was an important argument years ago when the ACA was being written. I hope you wrote your representatives then, because instead of electing progressive members who could evolve the ACA to your wishes, a regressive majority was elected to make it worse. Elections have consequences. The DOJ only enforces laws that have been written. Again, elections have consequences.

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          You give people no shot at a decent life, you get vigilante justice. It sure as shit would be better if we had some semblance of societal justice, imposed by courts and authorities without regard for the criminal’s stature. But we don’t. What we have is a felon president (and we all saw the boxes of classified docs by the shitter at his gaudy estate) and the Sacklers and the gun manufacturers etc. etc. And, of course, the insurance profiteers, who have murdered countless victims for fucking nothing more than a dolla dolla bill. So, seriously, what the FUCK else could you expect. In the words of a hero:

          These companies don’t care about you, or your kids, or your grandkids. They have zero qualms about burning down the planet for a buck, so why should we have any qualms about burning them down to survive?

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              And look where we are. Look around. It’s because we don’t fight that we are subjugated. Fucking wake up.

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              I accept it. Most of the people here accept it. The government obviously won’t accept it. You’re just scared the libtards are finally taking action. Hate to tell ya bro, killing abusive rulers is a bipartisan thing. The civil war you pine for is looking more like the rich vs the poor.

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              Omfg, we were founded on vigilante justice and murdering soldiers of the British state we were under the laws of.

              FOUNDED

              Herp derp that’s illegal and therefore wrong!