• Prandom_returns@lemm.ee
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    2 months ago

    The fact is, if my favourite game doesn’t run on Linux, Linux is dead to me.

    Similarly to some software that has no direct alternatives.

    Which sucks.

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        Sending personal data to Microsoft to see how famous I can become.

        On Linux I feel really lonely and unwanted.

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      That wouldn’t be a problem for me if it weren’t for the dual boot issues… I could easily switch to windows when I feel like gaming but no way I’m going to risk bricking my windows installation by installing Linux… Feels like an conspiracy lol when there’s a safe way to dual boot let me know

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        The real problem for me is that there’s nothing Windows can’t do for me that Linux can. So even with a dual-boot setup I just get too lazy to switch, and end up using Windows exclusively.

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          there’s nothing Windows can’t do for me that Linux can

          Linux can keep your data away from Microsoft

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                  Please. You have no idea what my IT literacy is. The fact is that unless you install a non-standard edition of Windows, run one of the many questionable debloat scripts, make dozens upon dozens of edits to the registry, disable automatic updates, and block connections at the network/firewall level, then you will absolutely be sending boat loads of data to Microsoft.

                  And the second you do any updates you’ll have to make all the changes again, because Microsoft is notorious for reverting those changes.

                  And, after all that, you still cannot be completely sure that no data is sneaking its way back to Microsoft unless you diligently monitor all network traffic.

                  So I stand by my statement that the one thing Linux absolutely does, that Windows absolutely cannot, is protect your data from Microsoft.

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                  Idk, I think it’s pretty unlikely “many other people” are modifying and using LTSC edition Windows for personal use.

                  Based on your interactions with others, it seems like you’re feeling attacked here, so I don’t necessarily expect a reply but thought I’d ask anyway– What changes have you made to enable what you’re describing?

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      Linux devs will NEVER suffer kernel level anticheat, so all games that require it will refuse to run. This is more of a problem with gaming industry culture at large, really. But it’s still only going to affect people who use Linux at the end of the day.

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        Kind of a self-fulfilling prophecy. I’d be willing to deal with the downsides of Linux, provided the very core things I do on a PC works. But I have a few things that I have very little wiggle room on.

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    I agree with Linus Torvalds. Linux is too fragmented. This makes consistent software deployment and support expensive and far too varied. Maintaining documentation alone requires an unlimited number of distros. From a user’s perspective, I really think Linux needs a universal install method like .exe. No user should ever need to use the CLI install software, no matter their distribution. Radarr, for example, is a very popular home media server application. It is one-click install on Windows. It is fucked on Linux.

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        Now all we’re missing is the universal enforcement piece, which I think is non-trivial. It might take off organically but as per my example above, I’m not hopeful.

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          “Universal enforcement” meaning what? On its face your proposal sounds fundamentally antithetical to what linux is. It’s an open source environment, meaning literally anyone can create software and post it online. Are you wanting all directories to only accept flatpak? I don’t think that would go over well.

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            You highlight the issue: Linux users like it to be fragmented. So unless Valve forces consolidation, it will stay a mess, and it will continue to repel average users. If that’s what we want, cool. Let’s just stop calling every year the year of Linux, because that will never be the case.

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    Linux has been ready since 2008. Literally not had a single real problem since Ubuntu 7.10 kept turning my monitor off while booting. Everything just works and has for 17 years now.

    Every problem I see people have now (IRL not online) is ‘I don’t like the default theme’ tier nonsense.

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      It might be nonsense to you, but that’s the first thing people see. No matter how amazing you business is, if your business card is a handwritten phone number on a piece of toilet paper, nobody will call.

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        Yup. If the theme is causing a mental hang up for laymen, then it’s an issue whether you agree with it or not.

        But I suspect it’s more than that, and Linux stans are playing down the shitty UI.

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    “Linux is ready” - which distro? Fractional (sometimes even non-fractional) scaling is a mess. Most things that go beyond changing the wallpaper image need some command line stuff. Linux Desktop is for nerds and definitely not ready.

    Yes it works fine if you know what you are doing but most people don’t. There is often not one thing of doing stuff, but hundreds. It already starts with the selection of a distro how would a “non-computer-person” decide on a distro. Just try them out? Install twenty different distros because reasons?

    Unless resources are pooled into a single distro to polish it and make a defacto standard for ordinary people, homes and offices, Linux is not ready. If I need the freaking terminal because I want to see the day of the week next to the date it’s not ready.

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        Do some testing. Put a non-technical Windows or Mac user on Linux for a week. Don’t explain anything to them, so they can figure it out on their own. Let me know how it goes.

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          The average Steam Deck user does not even know it’s running Linux. How it’s going: millions sold and counting.

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            Right. Because they’re interacting with an overlay the entire time, so they don’t have to deal with a shitty UI or manually performing any tasks.

            So that’s an irrelevant example.

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          How about a few million school kids on chrome books. My 6YO is AOK.

          Can you open a web browser? Done, Ship it.

          My Parents and my Ex were fine on it 20 years ago. (given back then I HAD to do the setup)

          The only problem they ever had was when my mother bought bargain bin CD full of shareware and I said no, that’s not going to work. She shrugged and I pointed her to some online solitare games.

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            Then they’re better off with a Chromebook or tablet. The only reason to be on a pc instead is to access all of the additional functions that would be a nightmare for them to figure out on Linux.

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    I worry about Wayland for the features it drops from X11. Wayland will never have xdotool support, due to its security model. I worry about onscreen keyboards for drawing tablets and screen readers for the blind.

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      This is not true, ydotool already works and there’s nothing against that in the wayland design, it just works differently than x, not not at all

      gnome is working on an accessibility protocol for wayland called newton, check it out.

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        ydotool is missing a lot of features. It emulates an input device, so it can only send inputs to the active window. xdotool can send keystrokes to non-active windows, and has features for searching for a window to send to. xdotool can minimize, dismiss, or move windows around.

        I’m aware of newton. It’s a work in progress, though, and doesn’t have as many features as X11 accessibility has. Although it might have enough features eventually, I worry that X11 will be deprecated by operating system vendors before that.

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    Install Mint. After the updates I tried to install Tailscale. Then proceed to uninstall Linux because I have install using terminal.

    The second I am forced to use terminal, I’m uninstalling.

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      No friend you don’t get it, if you don’t have to memorise a list of commands in order to be able to execute a program, it’s a shitty OS, trust me friend

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          That there’s not a UI showing you the possible options, there’s just a black screen and online documentation, so people don’t even know what to look for