Summary
Newt Gingrich blasted a Julia Roberts-led ad encouraging women to vote privately, calling it a sign of the sick values he attributes to Democrats. In a heated exchange with Sean Hannity, he accused the party of promoting dishonesty and moral decay in America, suggesting this reflects a broader erosion of societal integrity. Gingrich, who faced his own scandals, cited Robert F. Kennedy Jr.'s recent split from the Democrats as further proof of disillusionment with what he sees as their corrupt influence.
Man who cheated on his first wife while she had cancer and cheated on his second wife while impeaching Bill Clinton for having an affair, rails against the moral depravity of Democrats who encourage women to vote for whoever they want.
Okay can we stop with the whole “Clinton was impeached for an affair.” It was because it was with a staffer he has power over. It was extremely inappropriate. We shouldn’t be cool with men in powerful positions abusing those positions to fuck people they have power over. Monica Lewinsky was literally half Clinton’s age (22 and 49) and was horrifically abused by all of society AND CLINTON and HIS WIFE.
Like seriously if this was the president of a bank fucking some teller, who he is in charge of paying and promoting, no one would be confused why that banker should step down for abuse of power. The dude was president of the ENTIRE COUNTRY, and you can’t see how that’s abuse of power?
Like fuck Newt but also fuck Clinton who was buddies with Epstein. And him leaving his wife who had cancer is EGREGIOUS.
Eta: Lemmy is full of rapist apologists I guess. If you can’t understand how consent is VITAL and how it makes a world of difference, I hope you live a life being treated exactly how you treat others and women. There’s a man out there who will treat you, as a man, the same way. Good luck.
That is absolutely not what Clinton was impeached for.
The investigation in to Clinton began before he’d ever met Lewinsky, and it was over some real estate dealings. Because Clinton had not actually committed an impeachable offense, Ken Starr had to keep going back to Congress to ask for a wider scope.
The investigation took so long that after it began, Lewinsky was hired, Clinton won a re-election, there was sexual activity, word got out about it, and then Clinton lied about it under oath during a completely different deposition regarding a sexual harassment lawsuit filed by Paula Jones, which is what he was ultimately impeached for.
It wasn’t the affair or the harassment, it was the lie, and it was only the lie because they were absolutely desperate to impeach Clinton for anything by that point.
It remains that the problem with the Monica Lewinsky relationship is that Clinton had power over her, not that he simply cheated. It added validity to the other sexual harassment claims because it was also a clear case of sexual harassment.
I was quoting the other person about what specifically caused his impeachment. Regardless of the exact moment that caused it, the issue with Lewinsky remains as I’ve explained it: an abuse of power. It’s not that he “got impeached for a blowjob” or for cheating and when people phrase it like that, they are dismissing and ignoring the real concerns regarding abuse of power.
The point of the comment you’re replying to isn’t to excuse Bill Clinton, it’s to point out Newt Gingrich’s hypocrisy.
And yet it made a little detour to excuse Bill Clinton anyway
Ok but you’re being pedantic
OK that’s just like, your opinion, man
Let me tell you something, pendejo. You pull any of your crazy shit with us, you flash a comment like that out on the threads, I’ll move my mouse over your comment, and stick it right on the downvote and pull the fucking thing 'til it goes “click.”
Do it, bitch
Eta: you can dish it but you can’t take it? Honestly collectively the dick size on lemmy must be a micrometer
How
while impeaching Bill Clinton for having an affair,
Okay can we stop with the whole “Clinton was impeached for an affair.”
See how this is the comment I took issue with and that’s what I started my comment with? Calling it an affair negates the abuse of power involved. As I explained ad nauseum. Just because you’re a man who doesn’t like respecting women, doesn’t mean I’ve been extremely clear.
Calling it an affair draws a parallel to the affair Newt Gingrich was having with his dying wife you acorn
But it wasn’t just an affair. It was an abuse of power. Afaik Newt wasn’t having an affair with a staffer. So it’s a false equivalence, you acorn.
you heard it here folks… women having autonomy is moral decay… from the people who took away your right to govern your own body.
Seriously, this same bunch has been bitching over women getting the vote, being able to drive, owning land, having a bank account (w/o male approval), no fault divorce, abortion, birth control for decades. Often this was done quietly, or if in a mixed setting, it was done as a “ha ha can’t you take a JOKE?” kind of way.
Now they have stolen abortion rights and in the process the corrupted qons on the “supreme” court indicated they want to do something not only about Teh Gheyz, but also about birth control. And now several of them are being much more open about their hostility to no fault divorce. And unlike in the past, it’s not the geriatrics that were older than the boomers; I hear this shit coming of Gen Z and Gen Y age people…we should believe them when they say this is their intent.
A lot of qons would constantly clutch their pearls and try to get me silenced when I spoke about the xtian taliban. They were only so mad because THEY KNOW IT IS TRUE. The xtian taliban is a thing and other than bullshit doctrinal differences no one outside their little book clubs give a flying fuck about, THEY ARE THE SAME EXACT THING as Islamist extremists. Just because they are not allowed to murder gays and women right now doesn’t mean they get any special points.
Gingrich, who had an affair during his second marriage, then held Democrats responsible for America’s moral degeneration.
Decent journalistic integrity to point this out, but really should be in the headline.
Gingrich cheats on wives while they die and suffer from illness, talk about sick shit…
You can take it from Newt Gingrich, who has cheated on two dying wives, an epitome of moral compass that all americans should look towards.
He’s such a P.O.S.
LOL, I love that these fuckers are showing their true colors.
After all the bullshit talk about “TRUE conservatism” and how donnie is not “really” Republicanism…lol, no, donnie is the party and donnie is the party. It’s all one big pile of grievance politics and about keeping special privileges for xtian white cishet right wing males.
Meanwhile, I saw Megyn Kelly on Maher and her justification for voting for donnie involves two specters, it seems - the fear of 20 million “illegals” and “what THEY are doing to the kids in the name of trans”.
Seriously, WTAF. The bullshit whipped over illegals is way out of proportion and how is something like trans a concern for the PRESIDENT to handle, anyway?
I legit thought this guy died.
One of the other ones, I guess.
Crazy I was about to say the same thing!
Hugely influential in turning the GOP from “Side of politics we can debate and respectfully disagree with” to “Completely unhinged violent movement based on panic, hatred, and intellectual brain rot.”
He’s basically described like some bygone disaster and yet he’s still kickin’. Holy crap.
There’s a cozy spot in whatever hell right next to Kissinger for this vile beast. Another spot beside it waiting to be filled is likely labeled “Murdoch.”
Women having independent thoughts 🤢🤮 /s
His Mom…holy shit! WTF! Well he’s still my baby! I guess… I’m going to call you Newt but stop eating the dog!
Newt Gingrich? That fat turd from the 1990s?
This the guy who cheated while his wife was dying of cancer?
Naw, that was just a rumor. She had cancer or a tumor and they were fighting over divorce but the papers were served months ago, and she wasn’t on her deathbed.
But, he divorced her, got married again, cheated on #2 while in the midst of the Clinton scandal (talk about family values!), divorced her, got married a third time, and that’s when I quit paying attention to this dude. Dunno if he’s on #4 yet or what.
Needless to say, this dude gives relationship advice like a 6 year old gives tips on replacing a timing belt.
Like, if someone’s spouse is made to be uncomfortable talking about something sensitive to the point that go all sneaky about it, who they voted for is not the problem at all. These guys can’t see the forest for the trees, no wonder they can’t just form a solid lasting relationship
Yeah, he just came into the recovery room to make the final negatiations … you know … like you do
But she turned him into a newt!
He didn’t get better.
She certainly didn’t…
Dam, that’s thermonuclear
Exactly, he’s the perfect one to talk about the moral decay in America and the broader erosion of social integrity: he’s leading the charge in both cases!
Dr Seuss?
Monty Python and the search for the holy Grail
Edit Quest,*
Quest. Monty Python and Quest for the Holy Grail.
“Mønti Pythøn ik den Hølie Gräilen”
The moose bit his sister once
The moose was my favourite character
Yeah! Individual voters casting their vote based on their own judgment and conscience is sick!!!
It’s undemocratic! What is this, some sort of a republic? One founded on freedoms? spits
The king will hear about this…
“We’re going to throw you and your entire family out of this cult if you don’t obey!”
Best case
Fwiw, muh boys, you can do the same: doesn’t matter how big of nazis your family/coworkers are and that they’d literally want you dead for voting Harris - they don’t see your ballot. So vote Harris, then go back to the break room and bitch about her and talk whatever nazi talk you need to to fit in - cuz sure, you tooootaly voted against that conniving evil bitch! …or at least as far as they’re concerned you did: you can let your vote to save the US be a nice little secret. It all gud.
Lied to my dad told him I voted Trump just so he would stop his bullshit rants. But fuck yeah I voted Harris all the way. Fuck Trump and Fuck this guy. Thought he was fucking dead.
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Unfortunately it still is the 18th century in some places in America, and women are afraid of their own lives if their husbands found out who they voted for.
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thank you I’m glad i finally realized this freedom as a human toilet man
It’s interesting how different this dynamic is in Australia. Our public broadcaster is doing a mini series on the US election and they have a journalist there at present. In their recent episode they were talking about how people would see them with a mic outside some public or government building, and approach them with the intention of telling them all about their voting preferences and the underlying reasons.
That’s a stark contrast to how things roll in Australia. There are actually very, very few people who I would talk to about voting preferences. For example I talk to two of my sisters in group chat multiple times a day, see them at least weekly, talk to them about health problems, stressful situations, mental health… but I wouldn’t openly ask them who they’re planning to vote for and why.
It’s socially acceptable to talk about current issues in a non-partisan way. So in the lunch room you might say “this new tax thing is fucked” but you wouldn’t say “<political leader’s> new tax policy is fucked”. If it strayed into anything remotely political I’d clam up. I wouldn’t talk politics with work colleagues, I’d sit and judge them silently.
I’m not trying to say our way is better. Maybe it would be better if people talked about things more.
In very specific industries it might be different. I think it certainly was historically. My grandfather was quite vocal in his support for our Labor party (on the left) because of their support for unions. In his workplace people would have overtly supported Labor and it would’ve been very difficult to work there if you didn’t. Ironically, he was a bit of an asshole. My grandma was pretty great, she told me after he passed away she didn’t know who to vote for anymore because she always just voted the opposite of him just to cancel out his vote.
Pretty much every workplace in the US has a policy against talking politics… and pretty much no one actually adheres to that policy.
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Yeah she thought it was hilarious and i did too.
Like I said he was a bit of a jerk I think.
Every accusation is an admission.
If the social integrity of Americans (not all, you know which ones) was in good condition, women would not need to hide their vote due to fear of retaliation.
Newt Ginbitch wants women scared and repressed, wants morals to decay, because if not most women would vote to keep their rights.
