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The last 4 phones I had were just a mess. I am starting to loose hope of there being something that would work well. I just recently got a new phone, it’s a mess as usual. Maybe what I am experiencing is enough for a warranty claim, maybe it’s just a quirk to be dealt with…
Every couple years every newer phone I try is just worse and worse. I thought that maybe once PinePhone and available software gets mature enough…, but at this point, maybe other phones will just get crap enough.
My last good phone was ironically an ultra-cheap Lark Cumulus 5HD. It was just 50 EUR new. No lags, no crashes, swappable battery, a just works experience. 50 bucks…
Chronologically…
Moto G5s Plus
Great hardware, except that focus on my camera was kind-of broken, but I was too lazy to get that repaired under warranty.
But SW, god damn Motorola. Slow buggy mess. Crashes, freezes, battery drain. BUT, I was able to fix it with ✨a custom ROM✨
Poco X3 Pro
If you had any MIUI device, you know. Alarm clock may get killed optimized, ton of bugs to learn working around, built-in ads and spyware. Lots of it, based on blocked DNS logs.
HW - cheap and powerful. Average lifespan of the motherboard being whopping… 9 months. The phone ate 3 of them.
Moto G54 5G Power
Once again, great HW, SW not so much. The 3 button navigation was completely broken in high DPI and what made me return it - non-skippable updates. Just full-screen permanent update notifications. Only option: update. Nope.
Ulefone Armor 24
Few SW issues: Long-pressing dock icons while an app is open crashes “Quickstep”, in turn killing navigation (both gesture and buttons…). Alarm clock gets killed most of the time even with all optimizations off.
HW, least I think I should classify it as such: The phone has a chance to negotiate (?) 12V for split-second intervals using QC 2.0 (based on my USB tester) which it doesn’t expect, and throws overvoltage error. This happens with all QC-compatible chargers I tried, even the original one when used with OTG adapter.
The original one otherwise uses USB-C with PD, which works, sure. But after using it data transfer to PC via cable is broken until reboot.
I was very much a full-time phone person, but now it’s too much. I got a cheap touchscreen ThinkPad and use it with KDE Plasma (wayland). I was doing basically everything on a phone before, now I instead try not to, but with everything being an app, damn.
Pixel 6. Upgraded from a pixel 4a.
Where’s my fucking headphone jack.
Also why is the 6 so heavy
I’ve got a Fairphone 4. Had quite the headache, cause I had a slightly broken one. I don’t want to go into detail, but I can say the support on Fairphones side is excelent, they were super friendly and helped to fix the issues as best as they could. And the nice thing is that you can repair most things yourself. But it is still a “nerdy” product. Fairphone doesn’t have the best flagship with the fastes processor. But if you value something, where you own your hardware, and can repair stuff easily, you should consider it.
I have an iPhone 12 Mini.
I am an IT guy, I just want a phone that works.
It is not amazing, it is not horrible, it has good cameras, it’s fine.
CarPlay is awesome, the size is great, the battery is too small. The notch isn’t as annoying as I first thought.
It’s a fine phone.
Same here. iPhone 12 Mini, was an Android user before but this is probably the best Phone I ever had.
Android phones always had the issues with no more Android updates and getting slow with time.
Now my only problem is a battery which gets weaker every year and I don’t know what I will get next since this form factor is pretty much dead but I don’t want a bigger phone.
why not just replace the battery?
Yeah - I will try that as long as it is possible
I spend all day work on software. I am now a PM after spending 15 years writing code, but totally agree with wanting to not have to worry about hardware/software once I’m done working.
My personal phone is a Pixel 3a. I would classify it as not amazing/not horrible/decent camera and just works. I personally like some of the UX patterns in Android more than iOS, but these days the two are more or less in parity. Unless you get an OE ROM. Those can be a wreck.
Fairphone 4. No complaints at all
I’ve had three Google Pixels now and they’ve all developed problems with just freezing up or shutting down randomly. Won’t be getting one again. Also, the smaller versions keep getting bigger with every iteration. What’s the point? I want a small phone.
Pixel 4a. It has a headphone jack, the bootloader is easy to unlock, and it’s well supported by third party developers (I run LineageOS on it).
The stock kernel doesn’t support ExFAT, which is annoying. I’d prefer if it was a little smaller.
Rant: every newer phone is worse in terms of bootloader, size, or headphone jack.
The stock kernel doesn’t support ExFAT
Oh yeah, this also annoys me with my current phone due to Kiwix. Thankfully split ZIM mostly works.
Unless you have a philosophical/moral reason against it, try a Samsung. Can’t speak for the cheaper models, but the top models (S-series and Z-series) are usually really great.
Yeah, I do. Mocking Apple, then doing the exact same thing themselves. Also I kind of require a headphone jack and SD card slot. Even if the phone had >= 1TB, it’s still great for independent storage backups. Of course, being inside the phone it shouldn’t be relied on, but it did save me with the Poco X3 Pro for example. For added security, I use Termux and pipe the TAr archives to GPG.
The advantage of this is being doable basically immediately and offline at high speed, anytime.
But regardless, thanks for the recommendation. Maybe it will once be my only choice.
I have the Samsung Galaxy A54 it has an SD card slot and I just use an adapter so I can charge it and use headphones at the same time. Some companies sell it much cheaper. The only downside that I found was that Samsung promised that all Galaxy phones would get the AI integration but when the update came out the Galaxy A54 was not included so I can’t have AI built in to my phone.
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Off topic. But does your A54 have issues with wifi constantly disconnecting. I had one and it had wifi issues and I just wonder if thats every phone or did I get unlucky and got a bad batch.
Well, if you don’t mind alternative OS, try SailfishOS with an officially supported device. I used it with the Xperia 10 III and I really liked the experience, sans a few bugs.
It has a compatibility layer to run Android apps, though not everything is supported (to my irritation, fingerprint is not), but it works well.
I think newer devices are supported nowadays.
Edit: As of now, only the trial version is supported for newer phones, so to get the best experience, you should either wait for the commercial license availability, or buy a used Xperia 10 III.
Good luck with a headphone jack , any reason you couldn’t just use USB c headphones ? It seems like the phones you are choosing are lesser known phones with less people using it , so less testing and more like to have issues . If you want something that is just going to work you will probably have to settle with a pixel or Samsung. My galaxy s21 lasted a few years and took a beating and kept going m
Using OTG and wired headphones at once, for example with RTL-SDR.
Also my current phone (the Ulefone with charging issues) has a massive battery (85.14Wh) and is massive, which I like. For comparison, my thinkpad has a 45Wh battery.
Unfortunately, no regular brands would even think about offering a phone that’s 27.5mm (1.08 inch) thick and weighs 647g (1.43lbs). In my case, a bit more, since I also put it in a case anyway.
I’ll add that I got an a03s this week to use as a backup while my primary is on the healing bench.
It is garbage for use. I would have been less irritated setting those dollar bills on fire than I am trying to use it.
To give an example, this morning I went grocery shopping. Conncted Bluetooth headphones, opened only Spotify and my shopping list in notes. Every 45-90 seconds the music would hang, didn’t matter if the phone was in my pocket, in my hand locked, it in my hand unlocked with Spotify in the foreground.
To open YouTube, with nothing else open, to type three words that bring the desired video to the top of the search, and to start playback takes minimum of 30 seconds. I don’t bother with any video on here.
Typing this post has taken entirely too long because the fucking keyboard/autocorrect shit is too slow and causes all kinds of input lag.
I was going to end with saying it’s great for basic communications, but honestly… It’s shit. It’s motivated me to fix my regular phone as quickly as I can. Something I’m not prone to do without motivation, if at all.
Edited to add that even network speeds are garbage. Wi-Fi is far worse than cellular data, and that’s not great. Did some side by side testing with the other phones on the same network. The speed difference isn’t small, I didn’t write anything down so I won’t give numbers, but it’s bad. Real bad.
Oof. A0 series is horrible. You need at least A2x series phone or better to even have a usable phone.
6 years so far on my S9, was their flagship release.
I agree, one of the last companies selling quality.
I’ve got an A71 5g and my only bitch (it is a big bitch though) is that it’s slightly different from the 4g A71 in form factor so there are no good choices for cases.
I will never buy a phone that doesn’t support an application like SoundAssistant that let’s you completely silence certain applications and force audio multiplexing. If I can’t forcefully silence applications that I don’t want making sounds I live in misery.
Oh yeah, something like Good Lock should be mandatory for any phone.
Regarding form factor, is it just different dimensions, or do the cameras etc. have a different position as well? You could try 3D printing if the former and just resize it a bit. Or you can search for a case specifically for your phone. Like here.
I have an iPhone. It’s pretty recent, but definitely not the most recent. No, I don’t know exactly what model it is. It’s an utterly boring glass brick that lets me find out stuff and say stuff and take pictures. It set itself up from my last iPhone like a clone emerging from a vat, and someday it will be fated to transfer its lifeforce to its brother-self-son. Such is the way of the iPhone.
It’s… fine. I got a red one.
Small phones pleaseeeee!
Every time I buy a new phone I’m devastated to learn that I can’t get anything usable with one hand.
I need a 5.5 inch phone, anything bigger is hard to use, anything past 6 is impossible with one hand
Oh, you’d absolutely hate my phone: https://www.gsmarena.com/ulefone_armor_24-12602.php
Look at the dimensions, especially thickness and weight. Ironically though, it feels better in hand than a large thin slab. Thin phones are better smaller.
If you’ve seen that Energizer P28k thing, this is larger and heavier.
That’s some battery. How long do you get between charges?
I try to keep it around 20 - 80 %, that’s 2 - 3 days. Fully charged, (by the way, there is more capacity beyond “100%”), 4 possibly even 5 if going to like 5%.
But I use it heavily.
Also, that flashlight at the back can actually drain it quite fast. Hell, if you have like 30% it can’t keep it on full power steadily, it starts flickering a bit. It gets completely disabled <20%. Earlier if you use it in the camera app. Ideally, if you want to use it combined with the camera you’ll have > 50%.
You may be able to charge your laptop from it if it supports 5V charging. It can supply 10W. To get some idea, my ThinkPad L390 yoga is currently consuming 3.73W as I am typing this.
But as I wrote, good luck charging it, though my unit may be defective. I don’t have another one to compare to.
Pixel 6A. No headphone jack, no sd card slot, low battery life, but has grapheneos support.
Its so much heavier than the Pixel 4a, also the fingerprint sensor is worse
I have a Pixel 8.
It’s quirk is that every now and then, I have to manually force Pixel Launcher to close or I can’t minimize/switch apps. Basically since getting the phone, and going to their support pages/forums it’s a super common issue that’s existed since launch. And the fuckers won’t fix it.
And also the AI assistant thing, despite being turned off completely, still sometimes activates randomly as if you said “hey google.” Sometimes in the middle of the night in completely dead silence.
Pixel 8. Solid. No issues. Fuck AI.
I am jealous of the small iPhone or pixel 6 owners. I like small phones. Having a Google Pixel has been very good for me and the family. IOS is just too lazy to me.
I used to root phones all of the time. It got cumbersome and I caved. With a pixel I get regular updates and features. It’s not the best but it’s predictable.
I dont understand, the pixel 6 is bigger than the 8, isnt it? On gsmarena it says so. For me, i like the size of the pixel 8, as it is a little bit smaller than my previous phone.
Recently got the pixel 8, and installed grapheneos on it (which is very easy to do), and been great so far.
Pixel 6 with Graphene OS.
It’s perfect. I wouldn’t swap it for anything. Graphene is a delight to use. Android as it should always have been. Regular updates, very secure, no bloat, full (optional) Play Services support, all my banking apps work.
Only downsides are:
- Google Wallet/Pay doesn’t work but I’ve never seen the point in mobile payments anyway.
- No headphone jack, which I was dead against but tbh Bluetooth earbuds these days are superb and wired headphones were cumbersome.
No headphone jack, which I was dead against but tbh Bluetooth earbuds these days are superb and wired headphones were cumbersome.
I gave that a go, but nope. I did have a phone with no headphone jack, and used BT earbuds in the past. Another battery to keep charged, having to unpair them each time to use with a laptop, then re-pair them, occasional but annoying audio cuts with RFI (WiFi hotspot, microwave oven,…), very noticeable delay with FPS games (that was otherwise unnoticeable).
Just nope. Bluetooth audio is nice with a laptop, so that when I have earphones connected to it, I don’t have to disconnect them to hear something from my phone, but that’s about it.
Is it bad trying to set up Graphene if I already have a Pixel with data on it? What could I do to back my whole phone up prior to migration?
pixel 8 running graphene
pretty decent
fingerprint sensor is mid as hell, but cameras and screen are super nice
Just in case you know, is there a way to lock network bands in Graphene (couldn’t find an answer). It’s basically why I limited my selection to MediaTek this time around, but some custom ROMs might have that on different SoCs possibly.
Recently jumped from a Pixel 2 XL to the 9 Pro Fold. I had the 2XL for quite a while, and a few times over the years it developed this issue where it would shut off when I plugged it in to charge, unless YouTube was playing for some reason. Sometimes it would stay on if I turned it back on after it was plugged in, but not always.
I used my phone as my morning alarm, which typically meant starting a video like this before going to sleep. Generally the problem went away after a month or so, and so I just dealt with it. This last time was pretty persistent though, and got to the point where I decided to get a new phone.
Obviously I’ve only had the Fold for a couple months, so nothing crazy I’ve noticed so far. First time I’ve ever had a brand new flagship phone, which is neat I guess. A little pricey, but I do a lot of reading on my phone so honestly I think it’s a decent investment. Doubt I can go back to reading PDFs on a non-fold, but I tend to keep phones until they’re run into the ground, so by the time this one gives out there should be plenty of cheaper folds on the market.
Pixel 8 Pro. I take issue with the buttons all being on the right side, which makes combination presses difficult. The cameras are positioned in such a way that it’s difficult to keep stable while not covering them. Gestures are less good than iOS, but it’s literally 2024, and digital buttons should die. I do not like the under-screen fingerprint reader. Rear was so much better on my OnePlus 5T, and that was probably my best unlocking experience.
No headphone jack (surprisingly not new).
I went from a oneplus 5t to a pixel 7a, I really miss my oneplus. The newest oneplus at the time was too expensive and big for me, so I tried something different, but I will definitely go back once I get the chance…
