The democrats haven’t held a legitimate primary since 2008!

In 2008 it was a genuine competition between Obama, Hillary, and a handful of other lesser known politicians. Obama won the general in a landslide.

In 2012 Obama ran unopposed. Obama won the general.

In 2016 the democrats rigged the primary against sanders for Hillary, and to absolutely no one’s surprise who was paying attention, Hillary lost the general. Why? she didn’t genuinely win the primary. Shocking!

In 2020, refusing to learn mistakes from 2016, the democrats once again screwed over bernie and didn’t run a legitimate primary - rigged it so that all the candidates except no-path-to-win Warren exited the race to split the progressive vote away from bernie. Joe biden won by the skin of his teeth, and he would of lost if it weren’t for the country reacting to trumps handling of covid.

In 2024, once again refusing to learn the democrats didn’t even bother with a primary, ran an old demented geezer as a presidential candidate, realized that wasn’t going to work, and then anointed unelected Kamala Harris who didn’t even need to compete in a primary.

And they’re shocked they lost?! These people make way too much money to be this stupid.

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    The billionaires, who already owned the whole thing, did not want it. We got what we got. This downfall started long before 2008.

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      You act like they’d have “lost” if Kamala won…

      They win either way, just different amounts.

      Meanwhile the average American always loses, just different amounts.

      It doesn’t have to be like this, we don’t need to run shitty conservative Dems that billionaires like, because then we won’t need to spend a billion on ads that don’t even change anyone’s minds.

      We ran a Dem candidate that wants a border wall, doesn’t want universal healthcare, and is pro-genocide…

      Because that’s what the billionaires wanted. And because we listed to donors over voters, we lost an election

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        Got a serious question re genocide angle, how is trump well known for being anti-genocide?

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          He’s obviously not…

          But if the entire existence of American politics hasn’t been enough to show you that “lesser of two evils” is a losing strategy, I’m not sure how I’m gonna manage it.

          Taking the Dem party to the right doesn’t work, we just keep doing it because the DNC only cares about donations raised. They cater the party to billionaires and not voters.

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        C’mon. Like any politician, she had to try and be electable if she were to accomplish anything. How can it be that this is not obvious?

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          she had to try and be electable if she were to accomplish anything. How can it be that this is not obvious?

          And my point is that “electable” for a Dem candidate isn’t what she was doing.

          That would be matching her platform to what Dem voters wanted. Instead she based policy on “all voters” which includes the 40-50% who will never vote D under any circumstance. And in that process she lost votes from voters who will never vote R under any circumstances.

          If she was trying to be electable, it just shows how important it is we clear house at the DNC and run a fair primary in 2028.

          Because the same people have been running the show since 2016, and they’re 2-1 against fucking trump.

          They clearly aren’t up to the task

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            Another pretty fucking important thing to point out is that total voter turnout dropped by like 18 fucking million. The centrist bullshit just made a lot of people further to the left feel like it wasn’t even worth it to show up.