Donald Trump’s supporters thought voter fraud could determine the election outcome — until he won.

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    I have no doubt Trump made every effort to cheat. There were attempts to keep people from voting, bomb threats, purging of voter rolls, and questionable access to voting machines.

    But in the end, Trump won the election. He got more votes in more states, and he will be the President again.

    That’s who we are as a country. We elected Trump again. We need to stare at that in the mirror and acknowledge the uncomfortable truth about who we are if we’re going to make it better.

    America is not the bastion of freedom and justice for all anymore. We really haven’t been for a very long time, and denial has allowed fascism to infect our collective subconscious.

    We, the reasonable people, the ones who believe in freedom, equality, and the rule of law, we are the insurgency. The fox is in charge of the henhouse, and if we’re going to survive it, we will have to fight for our country again. Our forefathers did it, and I believe we can, too.

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      I have no doubt Trump made every effort to cheat. There were attempts to keep people from voting, bomb threats, purging of voter rolls, and questionable access to voting machines.

      Let’s not forget Elon collecting signatures from demographics least likely to vote, or starlink being used in many districts as the network uplink for insecure machines, or the switch to computerized poll register systems using digital signature on a tablet (rather than a paper poll register) at many of these same polling places.

      If you really wanted to juice your guy’s vote numbers it wouldn’t be all that hard to take the signatures you paid for and link them to people unlikely to vote, then get into vulnerable polling place systems and add bullet ballots for your guy ostensibly cast by people who are unlikely to actually show up.

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        Elon collecting signatures from demographics least likely to vote, or starlink being used in many districts as the network uplink for insecure machines

        Are sources available on these claims, particularly the first one specifically it being the least likely voter demographic? I keep seeing this stuff talked about but also hand-waving that it’s been debunked and I’ve been too wrapped up with life to investigate. I’m not hopeful that credible and clear evidence will show up enough to get widespread attention about vote hacking but I wouldn’t be opposed to hearing more come out either.

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      Yea, even if they did cheat, I don’t really care. Because it shouldn’t have been close enough for that stuff to even matter. People keep calling him charismatic and all I can think is “have you actually heard the guy talk? He couldn’t talk his way out of a paper bag.” Seriously, if a guy on the street corner said the same things he’s said you’d think he was an idiot, and you’d be right.

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      Give your speech to the Native Americans, the southern blacks, the Chinamen who built the railroad yada yada yada…