What? Windows has sucked for like 20 years. Google turned to shit when they got rid of “don’t be evil”
For those wondering about what specifically happened with each:
Minecraft - microtransactions on Bedrock edition
Reddit - API changes killing 3rd party apps and streamlining ad delivery
Netflix - Pricing and library changes making it less and less of a good deal
Chrome - Manifest V3 killing uBlock Origin and similar content blockers
Windows - Increasing numbers of ads baked into the system, poorly-made features like Recall, and lack of hardware compatibility with the TPM 2.0 requirement
Additional stuff:
Reddit - becoming more and more like a typical social media website with profile customizations and instant messaging.
Netflix - ads and now only limited to one household.
Chrome - might be the bloatiest of all chromium based browsers
Thanks. I was legitimately confused by Minecraft because I never saw anything negative added to Java edition but I’ve never played Bedrock. Minecraft keeps pumping out free content updates so they seem like a good example of what to do for a company.
bedrock isn’t real
Windows has been shit waaaaaaaaay longer than any of those. MS always “fixes” it afterwards just enough to become usable
Windows was shitty after the superior WinXP. I’d argue 98 was all I needed but XP was when disk scanning/defragmenting was baked in.
Windows 10 will be the last version of windows
Introducing Windows 11
Liars.
To be fair, Windows has huge, maybe even unreasonable, demands placed on it for backward compatibility due to corps not wanting to dump their 30 year old legacy software. And to Microsoft’s credit, they actually manage to do that pretty well while maintaining a reasonably stable OS. Most of the time, anyway.
The increasing interest in using Windows as a conduit for ads and data collection is what they really chafes me and is the primary reason I’m slowly moving away from Windows.
And here I am with older games crashing all the time on newer windows.
Wait, what happened to Minecraft? You’re just talking about the Bedrock edition, right?
…right?
I think it’s bedrock edition and the many cash grab spinoffs. Afaik og Minecraft is only better than it ever was.
Yeah that’s my experience so far. The only thing Microsoft has managed to ruin so far when it comes to Java edition is the launcher. Luckily there are many great FOSS launchers out there (Prism is my favorite). Everything else is working just fine, and the gameplay updates from the last couple of years have been good.
I can think of a couple more things, like forcing everyone to switch to a Microsoft account and the chat report system. Or the performance problems that were never truly addressed after 1.13. Even the combat update (1.9) I still don’t like.
But it’s certainly not ruined. As you mentioned, they still regularly update the game with cool features and new blocks, and many of the problems I mentioned can at least be fixed with mods. I would just like to see it fixed properly in the vanilla game.
+1 for Prism Launcher btw
Lol, this is hilarious. Thanks, Lemmy. It makes me feel better to know I’m not this far echo chambered. Good luck.
I had the same reaction. Enshittification came for Windows more than a decade ago, WTH are they thinking with this meme?
This implies Windows isn’t already enshittified, which is very much not the case.
Start menu ruined. All the UI is garbage. Fucking OneDrive.
I’m over it. Shopping distros as we speak.
Edit - Making this edit from a fresh Linux Mint install. Cheers.
One of us!
Welcome :-)
I don’t even use Windows, and just reading about what’s happened to the Start menu pisses me off.
Bazzite is the best distro, especially if you game
One of us! Gooble gobble! We accept them!
I know i didn’t mind putting up with a lot of Window’s bullshit, but I’ll never understand why they removed the single button click to create a folder in the files viewer. They moved it to a drop down. Idk if I’m the outlier but 90% of the time I used file viewer was to create folders because it was just one click of a button, but they just had to take that away lol
The final straw was when win10 started putting ads in the start menu. The start menu is so broken and bloated…
Is this an American thing? I have never seen ads in start menu in EU (Greece). Unless you mean some apps like Spotify which come with a fresh install, but I have uninstalled all of it.
It’s also an edition thing. The Home version is the worst, the Pro version is much the same, but the corporate Enterprise version cuts out a lot of the crap.
I am Australian. Yes, “suggested apps” masquerading as installed apps. Most if them shitty micro transaction games and adobe software. This is not preloaded software, I used to fresh install Windows on all my systems to get rid of that crud.
Maybe that’s where the loop starts.
TBH move reddit to the front of Netflix and Chrome and Windows behind Minecraft then its good.
Netflix happened before Reddit. Also, one could add Facebook and Amazon
And google (the search engine)
Tantacrul made an HBomb-length video about Facebook recently. Def worth a watch.
Oh enshittification is coming for Windows. In the future. Like it hasn’t happened yet or wasn’t the first and worst of these companies for it to come for. But something that hasn’t happened yet, not in the past. Interesting.
Windows was good until Vista … then it seemed every second version was a pile of shit (7 good, 8 crap, 10 ok, 11 ugh).
I personally like 11 more than 10, mostly because its same as 10 but with better UI. 10 was very bland.
everyone say goodbye to the wonderful decadess of lean, efficient, bloat-free Windows we have known and loved up until Windows 11!
it’s been smooth sailing until windows 11!
Windows 7 was the last good Windows. It was a nice polished OS that had the last decent search feature. 8 was a mess (it started without a start button) and then all the bloat/ads that came with 10 and above
Someday we will find Windows 9.
Afraid not, because 7 8 9.
Windows XP was the last good Windows. It had zero bloat, and heck, it encouraged you to use an admin account as your daily account. It didn’t have those pesky UAC notifications, and it would allow you to install each individual Windows KB Update. It didn’t have that high RAM usage that the Aero design had. There was no built in firewall until a later service pack, but you could just opt out of that update.
Windows XP was the last good Windows.
I think you’re really only remembering XP after SP3. XP in its original form was clunky, buggy and unreliable.
It had zero bloat
Wait are you trying to be funny?
it encouraged you to use an admin account as your daily account.
This is bad. You should not do this, especially not on anything connected to the internet. You should definitely not do this on an XP system connected to the internet.
There was no built in firewall until a later service pack, but you could just opt out of that update.
I’ve eaten the onion, haven’t I?
We said goodbye to that since Windows 8. Windows has been shit since Windows 8.
Windows 8 has some great improvements under the hood. I especially like the task manager changes. But people couldn’t take the start menu looking different, broke their little heads. Shouldn’t have even mattered, the correct way to use the start menu is hit the windows key, type the first 4 letters of what you want to launch, and hit enter
The thing is - we shouldn’t have had to do that. Maybe alternatively, but not primarily.
Microsoft’s problem with Windows 8, was how they got a hair up their ass by being obsessed with mobile technology. Tablets and Phones specifically. That they decided in their ‘infinite wisdom’, to infect desktops with a theme and performance that honestly was more suited for mobile devices.
How young are you?
Younger than Vista, that’s for sure.
Or Windows ME. Ugh.
ME had that thing where you didn’t need to constantly fuss with autoexec.bat and config.sys to use different software. That was an insane amount of added value…
But the rest of the system was so bad that nobody liked the tradeoff. Even today I’m in awe about how MS could make this tradeoff negative. It takes a serious amount of dedication.
I stayed with NT/2000 and my gf had ME on a junker Compaq display model her rents picked up at Circuit City maybe.
I think I switched it back up 98SE so she could write papers without it crashing or lagging all the time. She’d play the Money Python Holy Grail game, but it always would crash at one specific point. I gotta ask her what it was and see if I can find a copy to run in a VM.
When did Minecraft get Enshittified?
Bedrock is pretty full of microtransactions, upsells, and ads, and the Mojang to Microsoft account migration for Java made a lot of people lose their accounts entirely.
But the core gameplay of both editions is still fine, and Java is consistently getting more mod-friendly with each release. You also don’t actually have to buy anything in Bedrock; it’s mostly just annoying.
I don’t really agree that Minecraft is getting enshittified, but I can see why others might.
And the whole chat censoring thing, and Microsoft doubling down on banning players on all servers for chat content in their own private servers.
You can avoid the transactions, but they really lure the kids in. I have to constantly tell my kid I’m not paying for that crap it’s exhausting
bedrock was shit version from start, any respectable Minecraft player uses Java version.
I would also prefer to play on Java, however cross-platform support with Bedrock works really well. And that is actually quite the benefit. That way I can actually for once play a game with friends that are on other consoles or even on mobile.
Holup, they still continuing java version support?
Yep
The day Microsoft bought it.
Man I remembered some silly people who said “They aren’t going to make us have to use Microsoft accounts to still play!”.
Boy, did Microsoft did in fact do that.
Damn, didn’t know that. I think I only played locally, but it was years ago. Do you need to sign in to play offline?
unless you’re playing offline on a cracked version, AFAIK
That’s a pity. I had play stations. My fiancee has an Xbox. With games like that, if she is playing on her Xbox, can she use the same license in the Xbox app that Windows throws in everyone’s face? Or perhaps if I sat down at a computer, can we both play the same place. (Cross play I guess I mean)
with Xbox being owned by Microsoft I’m not sure how that works anymore haha
consoles, phones (mobile does require Microsoft sign in now for online), basically anything that isn’t downloaded from the PC launcher runs bedrock (which you can download on PC as well, originally called windows 10 edition but now I think it’s just in the all-in-one PC minecraft launcher) it’s been a while since i last played on PlayStation but I could play online multiplayer without a Microsoft account, it may or may not be the same on Xbox.
also I just have to share my opinion that if you’re capable of playing split screen with someone (with almost everything being online and long distance nowadays the opportunities keep getting rarer) it’s so much more fun. so my suggestion is to cozy up on the couch with your fiancee and a blanket and grab a couple Xbox controllers =p
Yeah that’s the only way I’ve played co-op for Minecraft, on the couch. We had a good run of playing ARK together like that for a bit as well. But the controls for co-op have a few issues. If you go to the inventory or upgrades, the buttons for the other player will start to get wonky in their inventory or upgrades. Usually you all together can’t press buttons at all and have to exit until the other player finishes. If you look through a scope, it zooms on the other person’s screen as well, strange flaws that you would think they would have fixed but never did after many updates. Almost forgot. You might get yanked across the map and drown or not be able to see underwater if the other player gets to far or isn’t in the water. Think they fixed the water thing now, haven’t tried it yet though
But if you have a PlayStation, a short game that I really liked was “A Way Out”. Its a couch co-op jailbreak game. It was made really well I think. The screen even resizes giving each player “priority” parts where it intentionally makes one player take the lead and the other support. Never played another game that did co op so well.
oh jeez, I knew minecraft really got enshittified but I didn’t think it was that bad, even on bugrock edition
I’ll make sure to check it out, thanks for the recommendation :)
Windows was the enshittification of DOS.
NEFTLIX
You missed YouTube
