• Sodium_nitride@lemmygrad.ml
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    16 days ago

    That echoes the peace terms that Zelensky and Putin’s representatives discussed in Minsk, Antalya and Istanbul in March and April 2022. Those talks ultimately failed because the Kremlin team refused to budge on key additional demands such as limiting Ukraine’s armed forces and rewriting laws on language rights.

    Well, it seems the Russians have gotten their demand of limiting Ukraine’s armed forces either way. So the first one was at least in retrospect, not a bad compromise. As for the second one, what exactly are those details, would you like to elaborate, Mr. Matthews? Is the reason that you aren’t elaborating that the Russians were against the reduction of minority language rights, as admitted even by an Atlantic Council article?

    But in many – in fact most –important ways, Zelensky is a victor. Four fifths of Ukraine will emerge independent of Russian dominion

    Independent of healthy prime aged males as well

    free to rebuild itself as a prosperous European democracy

    Yeah cause the “prosperous European democracies” are doing so well themselves, right? How many European leaders have an approval rating above 30%? How many are neoliberal hellhole police states, Owen?

    If Ukraine is very lucky, it may find another leader of Zelensky’s strength and calibre.

    With luck like this, Ukraine won’t need enemies.

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      If Ukraine is very lucky, it may find another leader of Zelensky’s strength and calibre.

      Holy shit this is fucked up.
      I wish everyone who thinks like this to actually experience living under a sadistic murderous dictator glorious leader like Zelensky who will kidnap you, your friends, your brother, your father, your son and send you all together into the meatgrinder lead you to victory over the “orcs”…

      Those people are truly fucking sadists…

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      Ah yes, The Spectator, one of the most rabidly anti-Russian publications, have all of a sudden adopted a pro-Russian narrative. It’s quite something to witness libs react when their ideological bubble is burst. 🤡

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          Are you saying that the reason that 88% of Ukrainians would not vote to reelect Zelensky is that they’re all traitors to their country?

          Is this a joke?

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            They are so braindead from decades of red scare propaganda they jump to ‘Russia’ from the slightest critique of US imperialism

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      16 days ago

      ^ That’s btw what happens in Ukraine as well. If you are against dictatorships, or turning a country into a prison, or kidnapping innocent people off the streets to send them to their deaths - you will find at least one [politician] who will say that you are “a Russian” (and therefore it’s morally okay to do whatever to you, as we all know - Russians aren’t humans, they are orcs, right?) :)

      (Of course, the longer the dictatorship gets, the less effective this trick becomes…)